The Last, Only, and Very Final X% Hype Thread

[Oscarus]

14 minutes ago, Bananacake887 said:

Sandslash-A is Blake's ace, and is used by two other trainers.

Alolan Sandslash is his ace? I've thought it was Walrein... Welp, nobody's perfect. 

14 minutes ago, Bananacake887 said:

Also, probably worst than this is Aster&Eclipse and Hardy who each had different aces(Hardy's ace originally was going to be Gigalith), but were changed to be Lycanroc (All different forms but still the same pokemon, Dusk and Midday are practically the same minus Tough Claws).

Each of them use other forms of Lycanroc, which are so different I actually took that with a pinch of salt. 

There're not completely different Pokemon, but at the same point they aren't basically the same, like forms of Basculin, so it's okay for me. 

[Oscarus]

1 hour ago, Bananacake887 said:

Swampert is also fairly slow, so it wouldn't be as threatening as Garchomp as the Grass type exists, although it could probably live one due to the assault vest.

With the given set, Swampert is more bulky specially than Garchomp. And since both have x4 weakness, and both of those types they're weak to are Special under this field, then well... 

(Reuniclus used for both calculations is the same aside from different typing of Hidden Powers; and Garchomp set/spread was taken from Reborn Wiki) 

I hope you do see now my point. 

[Bananacake887]

1 hour ago, Oscarus said:

With the given set, Swampert is more bulky specially than Garchomp. And since both have x4 weakness, and both of those types they're weak to are Special under this field, then well... 

Despite Garchomp being 4x weak to Ice, Garchomp has a speed stat of 102, whilst Swampert has 60. The only Ice types that outspeed Garchomp at an equal level are Ninetales-A, Weavile/Sneasel, Froslass and Cryogonal, and with Garchomp's coverage and a lack of Ice Beam, if your Ice type can't tank an attack and OHKO it, then you're up shit creek without a paddle.

Grass types however are much more plentiful, and a lot have more than 60 Speed so Swampert will be having a rough time. I see where you're coming from with Swampert being bulkier, but it doesn't really matter if Swampert can survive more hits if Garchomp doesn't get hit in the first place.

 

I'm not saying that Terra having Swampert is a bad idea, it would imo make her an easier fight. Her Garchomp, Quagsire and Palossand usually give me a bit of trouble, and I'm sure I'm not the only one so this slight nerf to her might've been helpful.

[Green Bean 501]

2 hours ago, Bananacake887 said:

Despite Garchomp being 4x weak to Ice, Garchomp has a speed stat of 102, whilst Swampert has 60. The only Ice types that outspeed Garchomp at an equal level are Ninetales-A, Weavile/Sneasel, Froslass and Cryogonal, and with Garchomp's coverage and a lack of Ice Beam, if your Ice type can't tank an attack and OHKO it, then you're up shit creek without a paddle.

Grass types however are much more plentiful, and a lot have more than 60 Speed so Swampert will be having a rough time. I see where you're coming from with Swampert being bulkier, but it doesn't really matter if Swampert can survive more hits if Garchomp doesn't get hit in the first place.

 

I'm not saying that Terra having Swampert is a bad idea, it would imo make her an easier fight. Her Garchomp, Quagsire and Palossand usually give me a bit of trouble, and I'm sure I'm not the only one so this slight nerf to her might've been helpful.

I feel like they could have easily used Flygon instead of Garchmp here. It has the same type and similar attacks and the addition of Dragon Dance. Sure, it has lower stats all across the board but at least it fits. Levitate could also make it a safe switch in to her Excadrill and Nidoking's Ground weaknesses. Swampert could be a good reason to reference mudkipz, but Amaria already has one if you battle her in singles

Edited February 10, 2022 by Green Bean 501

[Bananacake887]

3 hours ago, Green Bean 501 said:

I feel like they could have easily used Flygon instead of Garchmp here.

That's what I'm sayin'. I don't recall Flygon being used yet except from Clown Indra and maybe 1 or 2 random trainers, so no important trainers. Saphira may use one, but we don't know that yet so it can't be counted. If the Dev's didn't make the change in E19 then I feel that it was a missed opportunity to use a somewhat strong, underused Pokemon to give it some spotlight(no hate on the Dev's though, there also could have been sentimental value with Terra and Garchomp). Could literally just copy and paste Garchomp's moves and such onto a Flygon and it would pretty much be the same thing(except a somewhat weaker physical attack).

[andracass]

[Logan_the_balalaika]

I see there's a serious discussion going on and I'm here like: lol fernip

 

Reminds me of a teaser from one of Marc's posts 

 

[Oscarus]

2 hours ago, Logan_the_balalaika said:

Reminds me of a teaser from one of Marc's posts 

"Emotional depth of a half-blooded turnip" 

 

Hmmm... Quite a puzzle he'd given to us. 

 

"Emotional depth" could mean the recipient is someone with a rather complicated/mysterious and very complex personality, and "half-blooded" - since that means "connected by blood, but having only one common parent", so it's very possible this is a conversation between siblings. 

 

I think it must be either between Fern and Florinia, or Hardy and Titania, as we do know nothing about thier parents, unlike the case with Charlotte, Laura and Saphira, when we know all three had the same parents. But I might lean more toward the former two, because of the "turnip" part... It's a plant. Both of them are Grass-tye specialists, and Grass Leaders of Reborn League (at least we assume, because there's a chance Fern got revoked from his position after making an alliance with Meteors) 

[Green Bean 501]

7 hours ago, Bananacake887 said:

That's what I'm sayin'. I don't recall Flygon being used yet except from Clown Indra and maybe 1 or 2 random trainers, so no important trainers. Saphira may use one, but we don't know that yet so it can't be counted. If the Dev's didn't make the change in E19 then I feel that it was a missed opportunity to use a somewhat strong, underused Pokemon to give it some spotlight(no hate on the Dev's though, there also could have been sentimental value with Terra and Garchomp). Could literally just copy and paste Garchomp's moves and such onto a Flygon and it would pretty much be the same thing(except a somewhat weaker physical attack).

At least there's a chance Lin will use Flygon. It doesn't loose speed on the New World and can learn field boosted attacks like Crunch and Draco Meteor

[Dark Legend]

Lin's team Prediction:

 

Hydreigon

Flygon

Noivern

???
???

???

(I don't have any ideas for the rest, maybe help me out?)

 

 

PS: I didn't put the ARC PULSE because I fugure that will be fought after Lin

[Mr.Badass]

1 hour ago, Oscarus said:

"Emotional depth of a half-blooded turnip" 

 

Hmmm... Quite a puzzle he'd given to us. 

 

"Emotional depth" could mean the recipient is someone with a rather complicated/mysterious and very complex personality, and "half-blooded" - since that means "connected by blood, but having only one common parent", so it's very possible this is a conversation between siblings. 

 

I think it must be either between Fern and Florinia, or Hardy and Titania, as we do know nothing about thier parents, unlike the case with Charlotte, Laura and Saphira, when we know all three had the same parents. But I might lean more toward the former two, because of the "turnip" part... It's a plant. Both of them are Grass-tye specialists, and Grass Leaders of Reborn League (at least we assume, because there's a chance Fern got revoked from his position after making an alliance with Meteors) 

 

That’s a Fern quote.

[Mr.Badass]

1 hour ago, Dark Champion said:

Lin's team Prediction:

 

Hydreigon

Flygon

Noivern

???
???

???

(I don't have any ideas for the rest, maybe help me out?)

 

 

PS: I didn't put the ARC PULSE because I fugure that will be fought after Lin

And don’t forget Gardevoir .

[Green Bean 501]

1 hour ago, Dark Champion said:

Lin's team Prediction:

 

Hydreigon

Flygon

Noivern

???
???

???

(I don't have any ideas for the rest, maybe help me out?)

 

 

PS: I didn't put the ARC PULSE because I fugure that will be fought after Lin

Gossip Gardevoir, Metagross, and Zoroark all seem likely given the field effects. Maybe Victini or Xerneas if she's immortal

[Oscarus]

25 minutes ago, Green Bean 501 said:

Maybe Victini or Xerneas if she's immortal

Victini makes more sense, as she practically always wins, even in the most sticky for her situation 

We don't know whether she's immortal (or she even exista in a metapsyhical sense at some moments) but definitely not a human as Lin:

• is able to be underwater; breath, talk and move freely without any assistance of oxygen tank or any other shit
• can tank Samson's (canonically the strongest human in Reborn Region) hits without even flinching and OHKO'ing him back
• Spoilers to "Pokemon Reborn: Adventures" 

Spoiler

She also could take a brutal beatdown from Oscar without receiving ANY damage; whereas his ONE PUNCH is often enough to kill a grown adult (confirmed by Radomus when talking about the incident with Adrienn in front of the Citadel) 

 

Despite it looking like Broly vs Frieza fight, Lin could actually handle his strikes for hours and move freely after it. Probably that was just one of her mind games, making the furious, not-rationally-thinking protagonist assume he has the upper hand and will extract vengeance. 

 

There is a theory she has some kind of bond or association with Giratina (or she IS Giratina), but we need to wait for the conclusion. 

 

One thing that complicates things is the scene in Shade's Gym, where Lin is "judgment cut'd" or "Signora'd" (depending what you'd like to call it) but this CANNOT be the actual scene of demise. As Shade claimed in the Water Treatment Center, "only two will be taken" (I don't remember the full quote), referring to the scenes in the Gym. These two were already taken: Shade and Kiki. The third - Amaria - survived, so Lin should survive the incident (does not mean she will survive at all, tho) 

But a part of me wants to say: What if "taken" should be treated more literally, like "taken by somebody". 

Corey's corpse (and maybe soul too; seeing Poison-type Ghost in thier battle with the name "Corey"; but that might be just a mindgame) was taken by Shade, but Kiki's not. (and also why there is no scene of "Final Farewell" there, just transition to the scene with Victoria not giving the Badge because of League rules, and everyone act like "almost nothing catastrophical or tragic happened". There should be some little funeral scene, imo, to pay respects to her)

But if that was the case... does that mean Shade will take Lin's soul (assuming she has any; which is very unlikely), and either banish, destroy or... "absorb" it...? 

Shade is very suspicious - he/she has always acted in player's favor, and has made an alliance with Elite Four Fantasia and Dark Leader Luna. He/She might backstab us, in the least expected moment, to cause a major twist... but I'm not throwing away the possibility he/she will be Lawful Neutral to the very end. 

[Bananacake887]

4 hours ago, Oscarus said:

(at least we assume, because there's a chance Fern got revoked from his position after making an alliance with Meteors) 

It's been confirmed that El has had an Elite 4 room designed and implemented into E19, so it's likely that he will be fought as an Elite 4 member. El was much more involved in Team Meteor than Fern, so I doubt Fern would get sacked from Reserve Leader if El got away scot-free.

 

4 hours ago, Green Bean 501 said:

At least there's a chance Lin will use Flygon. It doesn't loose speed on the New World and can learn field boosted attacks like Crunch and Draco Meteor

Fair point, she was after all a Dragon type user during the online league. Flygon can also learn some more boosted special attacks on New World, such as Earth Power, Signal Beam and Swift(transfer move), combined with Draco Meteor.

[Oscarus]

1 hour ago, Bananacake887 said:

It's been confirmed that El has had an Elite 4 room designed and implemented into E19, so it's likely that he will be fought as an Elite 4 member. El was much more involved in Team Meteor than Fern, so I doubt Fern would get sacked from Reserve Leader if El got away scot-free.

Elias is a genius manipulator and could easily trick most of the Reborn into believing he is just an old holy man and close co-worker of Ame as an one of the Four Heavenly Kings (AKA Elite Four). Of course, there are some exceptions, like "200 IQ" Radomus, yet still. 

 

And who said that just because Fern was less involved in Team Meteor, he will get away? He's an Agent, and El's an Admin/Commander (at least I assume that because that makes sense if you analyze various sources and compare them), but lower rank doesn't save him. He has allied himself with organization wanting to "destroy" Reborn - if Ame, or any of the higher ranked, discovered it, which could happen - Fern ain't the most wise of the characters... consequences would be. 

Luckily for him, she-... No. No. No dark jokes anymore. 

Just he was lucky. 

Spoiler

Unlike in my fanfic, when during events of Fiore Gauntlet, he lost an entire right arm

 

[Green Bean 501]

18 minutes ago, Oscarus said:

Elias is a genius manipulator and could easily trick most of the Reborn into believing he is just an old holy man and close co-worker of Ame as an one of the Four Heavenly Kings (AKA Elite Four). Of course, there are some exceptions, like "200 IQ" Radomus, yet still. 

 

And who said that just because Fern was less involved in Team Meteor, he will get away? He's an Agent, and El's an Admin/Commander (at least I assume that because that makes sense if you analyze various sources and compare them), but lower rank doesn't save him.

Corey and Terra both have high ranking positions in Team Meteor too. Obviously nothing can be done about Corey, but what would happen if Terra somehow escaped her computer world?

[Dark Legend]

7 minutes ago, Green Bean 501 said:

Corey and Terra both have high ranking positions in Team Meteor too. Obviously nothing can be done about Corey, but what would happen if Terra somehow escaped her computer world?

She ain't gonna escape, but what if she can control the computer world and it affects the real world's devices?

[Green Bean 501]

3 minutes ago, Dark Champion said:

She ain't gonna escape, but what if she can control the computer world and it affects the real world's devices?

So like Rejuvenation's Puppet Master but with computers?

[Dark Legend]

2 minutes ago, Green Bean 501 said:

So like Rejuvenation's Puppet Master but with computers?

Yeah, thats a good way to say it

[Oscarus]

22 minutes ago, Green Bean 501 said:

Corey and Terra both have high ranking positions in Team Meteor too. Obviously nothing can be done about Corey, but what would happen if Terra somehow escaped her computer world?

When they discovered Corey is an Agent, an entire squad was sent to the Gym to arrest him. But of course they, professionals, needed a help of some random teenager from faraway region that just wanted to beat the League for fun. 

 

...not my fault they're dumber than a pile of rocks! And fighting while splitting up when vines and grass tentacles are spreading across entire ward?! Whose idea that was!? THEY GOT A GYM LEADER KILLED BECAUSE OF THAT! 

If protag didn't free Adrienn from the Citadel, we would have a trouble finding another Fairy Leader. Apparently there was a Reserve, but other than knowing that it exists... 

 

And Terra, despite her... everything, might be one of the smartest in Reborn. Because... creating a different "dimension" inside a computer?! That's impressive.

..unlike my OC who doesn't even know how to access PC. Instead, if he wants to rotate party, he has to ask his butler Sebastian to trade him Pokemom from Altro City in Sacroc. 

 

24 minutes ago, Dark Champion said:

She ain't gonna escape, but what if she can control the computer world and it affects the real world's devices?

 

22 minutes ago, Green Bean 501 said:

So like Rejuvenation's Puppet Master but with computers?

This is very much possible. If her computer has some sorts of connection with the region, she may cause more mayhem... or maybe help the protagonist, because she had a change of heart. 

I wonder how Lin would react if her only 'friend' betrayed her. Or maybe Terra has something to do with Lin and her invinciblity...? 

We are so fucking close to the end, yet so many mysteries are yet to be solved. Also... When will we meet Savage? He was mentioned only once, and then never again. And I'm still curious if he will play some role in the plot, or he's gonna be a post-game addition. 

[Green Bean 501]

18 minutes ago, Oscarus said:

We are so fucking close to the end, yet so many mysteries are yet to be solved. Also... When will we meet Savage? He was mentioned only once, and then never again. And I'm still curious if he will play some role in the plot, or he's gonna be a post-game addition. 

Probably post-game, it feels way too late into the main story to introduce a brand new character

[Dark Legend]

4 minutes ago, Green Bean 501 said:

Probably post-game, it feels way too late into the main story to introduce a brand new character

True.

[Rozetheeuwu]

34 minutes ago, Oscarus said:

When will we meet Savage?

Ame was asked if we would meet savage in e19 on tumblr and she replied with

well, it would be a shame to talk about him earlier and then not, right?actually i already promised since years ago that the victory road trainers would be the online league’s champions, and he was one of them. eventually.

 

[Dark Legend]

6 minutes ago, Rozetheeuwu said:

Ame was asked if we would meet savage in e19 on tumblr and she replied with

well, it would be a shame to talk about him earlier and then not, right?actually i already promised since years ago that the victory road trainers would be the online league’s champions, and he was one of them. eventually.

 

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm