Veterans andracass Posted September 11, 2021 Veterans Share Posted September 11, 2021 9 hours ago, RocketOSullivan said: (SR being here in order to break her Dragonite's ability), this does not work on dragon's den 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketOSullivan Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, andracass said: this does not work on dragon's den Oh, that could be an annoyance, but if Dragonite comes after I set up the cave field that's not gonna be a big deal at all. And I guess this is very likely to happen, because Dragonite is Saphira's ace, and aces usually come very late in the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcv Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 19 hours ago, Draconis said: *monkey screeching* This does make me wonder what the overlap is. We have nine Pokemon, but only six quests. I'd presume at least one trio, which reduce it down to seven quests. So possibly a trio and a pair. Or maybe the Tapus, which could be four Pokemon in one quest...Also might mean that one will take longer than the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nguyengiangoc Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 9 hours ago, andracass said: this does not work on dragon's den Is Multiscale in Dragon's Den effective regardless of the user's HP? I checked the Reborn wiki, and the only effect listed there is the removal of Dragon's weaknesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kithas Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Yeah I also remember it being effective regardless of HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconis Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Well, if it's no weaknesses, I'll just have to hit as hard as I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nguyengiangoc Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 So Saphira's Dragonite essentially: - Has no Dragon-related weaknesses (Dragon, Ice, Fairy) because of Multiscale in the Den. That means its potential weaknesses are Flying-related, which are Rock, Ice, and Electric. - Has neutral resistance to Electric because of its typing. - Has neutral resistance to Ice because Ice moves' powers are halved in the Den. - Has a built-in permanent damage reduction because Multiscale in the Den is effective regardless of HP (not sure about this) - Can raise Attack and Speed in two stages in one turn because Dragon Dance's boosts are doubled in the Den. - Has Extremespeed to bypass any speed difference So we just throw Rock moves at it? Will the Den field be modified to make Rock moves carry additional Fire damage and thus remove Dragonite's last weakness? Oh what are we getting ourselves into... Maybe I should just cheese it with a Perish Song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconis Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 5 hours ago, nguyengiangoc said: Maybe I should just cheese it with a Perish Song. I got Destiny Bond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcv Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Or you could just bring a team of six dragonites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconis Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 46 minutes ago, wcv said: Or you could just bring a team of six dragonites. Now that's a galaxy brain move right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nguyengiangoc Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 2 hours ago, wcv said: Or you could just bring a team of six dragonites. Modern problems require modern solutions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisgameishard Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I still think best bet is getting rid of dragons den, either through ice z move or something like misty terrain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nguyengiangoc Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 hours ago, thisgameishard said: I still think best bet is getting rid of dragons den, either through ice z move or something like misty terrain. What if field change is redesigned to be no longer permanent? If I remember correctly, in Rejuv new fields will revert to the default one after a certain number of turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconis Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 hours ago, thisgameishard said: I still think best bet is getting rid of dragons den, either through ice z move or something like misty terrain. Is the Icium-Z available rn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcv Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Draconis said: Is the Icium-Z available rn? Its in Ametrine Mountain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisgameishard Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Draconis said: Is the Icium-Z available rn? its in the room where you can fish for dratini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconis Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Oh yeah I forgot lol It's been a while since I last opened my game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stibarsen Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I would guess (and hope) that mold breaker bypasses the weakness-neutering effect of Multiscale too (since it bypasses Filter and Solid Rock), in which case something like Mega Ampharos or Druddigon under Trick Room, or Haxorus with speed support, would be a pretty good counter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisgameishard Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 it really seems like everyone has some pretty viable strats for Shaphira, but this tournament in Labradorra seems like its gonna be much harder, as I think it will be unlikely that we will be able to change teams between fights, making it one hell of a gauntlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nguyengiangoc Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 What if the actual Dragon-badge-earning battle is the final round of the tournament instead of the final battle in the gym? It's like the Normal-badge-earning battle does not happen the 1st time the player and Noel face one another outside the Belrose house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisgameishard Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, nguyengiangoc said: What if the actual Dragon-badge-earning battle is the final round of the tournament instead of the final battle in the gym? It's like the Normal-badge-earning battle does not happen the 1st time the player and Noel face one another outside the Belrose house. Woahh i think that would be a dope concept, it would add a whole different dimension to the difficulty of getting our last badge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laggless01 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 23 hours ago, thisgameishard said: I still think best bet is getting rid of dragons den, either through ice z move or something like misty terrain. Misty Mamo at it again, I guess. Seriously, that mon always carries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconis Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 10 hours ago, nguyengiangoc said: What if the actual Dragon-badge-earning battle is the final round of the tournament instead of the final battle in the gym? It's like the Normal-badge-earning battle does not happen the 1st time the player and Noel face one another outside the Belrose house. Ohhh, good point. Moreover, what if the tournament takes place in the gym itself? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcv Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 9/12/2021 at 6:54 PM, thisgameishard said: it really seems like everyone has some pretty viable strats for Shaphira, but this tournament in Labradorra seems like its gonna be much harder, as I think it will be unlikely that we will be able to change teams between fights, making it one hell of a gauntlet. Wasn't that an April Fools Joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconis Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, wcv said: Wasn't that an April Fools Joke? I'm inclined to believe otherwise, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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