Hidden Abilities.

[Aizen805]

I had a quick question about them and forgive me if it's already a thread, (I couldn't find it if it is.) but I haven't encountered a wild pokemon that had it's hidden ability, but i've encountered pokemon that you recieve from trainers and just in the wild as overworld sprites that have gotten their hidden ability. My question is can I get a pokemon's hidden ability from hatching it as an egg? Much appreciated.

[Amethyst]

You should be able to.

Theoretically.

If not, there's a problem.

[Aizen805]

That's enough for me to try. I don't give up easily. xD

[Desper]

Quick question I had (somewhat) relating to this, is breeding influenced by held items like it is in the main series games? Like giving a female an Everstone to transfer Nature, or the Power items to transfer IVs? (though I don't know if the Power items are in-game yet or ever will be)

Or has nobody tried that stuff yet?

[Aizen805]

Quick question I had (somewhat) relating to this, is breeding influenced by held items like it is in the main series games? Like giving a female an Everstone to transfer Nature, or the Power items to transfer IVs? (though I don't know if the Power items are in-game yet or ever will be)

Or has nobody tried that stuff yet?

I'm pretty sure it's the same yes. I haven't tried it though. I have an everstone so I will be and able to confirm that shortly.

[Desper]

I'm pretty sure it's the same yes. I haven't tried it though. I have an everstone so I will be and able to confirm that shortly.

I was thinking of breeding for pokes that have a low encounter rate or egg moves that I want, but if I can't pass down Natures I will probably forego that option. If you could report your results afterwards, it would be awesome.

[Aizen805]

I was thinking of breeding for pokes that have a low encounter rate or egg moves that I want, but if I can't pass down Natures I will probably forego that option. If you could report your results afterwards, it would be awesome.

Sure. Should have them by the end of the night.

[Monkeeman]

Are hidden abilities supposed to be there for gift pokemon? like for example i wanted an eevee with its hidden ability (for espeon) so i saved right b4 grabbing it and tried multiple times with no luck. I'm just not sure if you intended for that is what i'm asking.

[Aizen805]

I was able to pass down the nature and ability of my Magikarp when it's mother held an Everstone, so that's definitely possible. I also hatched a Magikarp with the ability Rattled, so you can hatch pokemon (At least magikarp lol) with their hidden ability also.

[Desper]

Are hidden abilities supposed to be there for gift pokemon? like for example i wanted an eevee with its hidden ability (for espeon) so i saved right b4 grabbing it and tried multiple times with no luck. I'm just not sure if you intended for that is what i'm asking.

How is Eevee obtained? I'm not sure if it's the same problem, but I do recall Ame saying that there may be an issue with Hidden abilities and trades. So if Eevee is obtained in a similar fashion, the same issues could apply. Although, if I am correct, you should be able to breed Eevee for its hidden ability. I would make a backup save before trying, though, because I'm not certain it will work.

I was able to pass down the nature and ability of my Magikarp when it's mother held an Everstone, so that's definitely possible. I also hatched a Magikarp with the ability Rattled, so you can hatch pokemon (At least magikarp lol) with their hidden ability also.

That's good, I'm happy that the mechanic is in this game. There were some issues with similar effects, like the hidden effect of Synchronize, so I wasn't sure.

I also think you may be on to something with the no hidden abilities for wild Pokemon--I kind of skipped over that at first. I hadn't realized it before, since I only caught a couple Pokemon in the wild (though I did reset a ton for each), but one of them never had its hidden ability. I caught around 25 or 30 Budew with no Leaf Guard, but Ame said the ability was on there. Zubat, on the other hand, had a 50/50 chance of being either Infiltrator (hidden) or Inner Focus. But Zubat has only 2 possible abilities, so maybe wild pokemon are only able to have 2 to choose from? Idk. I'll catch more wilds in the future

[Aizen805]

I also think you may be on to something with the no hidden abilities for wild Pokemon--I kind of skipped over that at first. I hadn't realized it before, since I only caught a couple Pokemon in the wild (though I did reset a ton for each), but one of them never had its hidden ability. I caught around 25 or 30 Budew with no Leaf Guard, but Ame said the ability was on there. Zubat, on the other hand, had a 50/50 chance of being either Infiltrator (hidden) or Inner Focus. But Zubat has only 2 possible abilities, so maybe wild pokemon are only able to have 2 to choose from? Idk. I'll catch more wilds in the future

I know for a fact that it's possible to catch wild pokemon with their hidden ability because i've caught every pokemon i've seen so far, but looking back every single one in my box only has 2 abilities to choose from. I tried catching a tangela with Regenerator, but never found one after like 10 tries I gave up. Might be onto something, or at least it's a much lowered chance of finding a pokemon with it's hidden ability if it has 3 abilities in total.

[Amethyst]

Wild Pokemon can have any of 3

Natures can be passed down, Abilities can't because that part of the breeding script was crashing eggs. But, there's still a 50 or 33% chance of getting the nature you want anyway so it's not a big deal.

Pretty sure event pokemon work with dream world stuff. I remember seeing someone get a Vital Spirit Magby, so if that works, Eevee should.

[Ikaru]

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[JohnnyBR]

Yep I had a Vital Spirit Magby. But I've reset so many times and cant get a Prankster Riolu ):

Random is random

[Desper]

Yep I had a Vital Spirit Magby. But I've reset so many times and cant get a Prankster Riolu ):

Random is random

Well, Magby only has one normal ability to choose from, making two total. Riolu, however, has two normal abilities, making his total three. If you can't seem to find a Riolu with prankster, then it might be further proof of the two abilities to choose from idea.

Or we could be wrong. But nobody has provided proof yet, so who knows.

Edit-

Yo.

Adaptability isn't Eevee's hidden ability lol

Edited July 8, 2013 by Desper

[JohnnyBR]

Hmmm I mean I guess I can give it a little more credence by saing I did reset a bunch for a Poison Heal Gligar and only ever got Hyper Cutter or Sand Veil..

[Ikaru]

.......

WELP.
Now I look stupid. It's just now coming back to me that it had Adaptability in Gen IV too. Don't mind me.

[Aizen805]

I have a really bad compulsive disorder that usually forces me to do crazy shit, like catch every pokemon i've seen in the wild, but for once it seems to have paid off. I used all of the pokemon in my boxes at the Pc (Currently 5) to test my theory that if a pokemon has 3 abilities to choose from that it will almost never (If not definite) be caught in the wild or by special event, with it's hidden ability. This is excluding hatched pokemon because currently I haven't tested trying to get a hidden ability from a 3 ability pokemon yet. Basically, I tallied up every pokemon in my Pc that had 3 abilities and 2 abilities (Excluding pokemon with only 1 ability and duplicates) and got 33 pokemon that can learn 2 abilities and 83 pokemon that can learn 3 abilities. What I found was that 17/33 of the pokemon that had 2 abilities were caught with their hidden abilities without me resetting any of them, which was including pokemon from special events. Oddly enough that's about a 50/50 chance, so it sounds about right. You'd expect to see a 1/3 chance of getting a hidden ability on a pokemon that has 3 abilities, but out of 83 pokemon that could learn 3, none had their special ability. If anyone has found a pokemon that has 3 abilities with their hidden ability please tell me, but if not, I think this might be why people are finding it difficult to find some pokemon with hidden abilities. I hope this wasn't taken the wrong way, I just wanted this to be brought to attention because i'm sure it's something that was just overlooked on accident and can be corrected in a future update.

Edit: Grammar. Ocd'in it up.

Edited July 9, 2013 by Aizen805

[Amethyst]

Either it was overlooked, or the script I had to insert dreamworld abilities never worked properly in the first place.

Here's a challenge: Can anyone who played this game pre-episode 6 confirm if, before episode 6, they caught anything with 3 abilities, with its dream world ability? Looking at the veteran-players here.

If so: Then I broke it in a recent update and the new one might fix it

If not: Then the script never worked in the first place and I need to contact people, find out why and that might not be in time for Episode 9

[Desper]

Well this is about to get pushed back to page 2, so I'll just add that all of my Pokemon so far fit with our theory (though I don't think I needed to say that; the evidence is conclusive enough already). I haven't done any breeding yet, still waiting until I can get a Ditto so I can get some female versions of my Pokemon. But when I get to that point I will definitely be breeding a lot, and several of the Pokemon I plan on breeding will have 3 abilities.

This was more of a bump than anything to be honest, so people will see this and it doesn't get pushed out of the front page. Maybe it would be a good idea to set up a poll or just a thread in general asking people questions, Ame? Since not a ton of people seem to be stopping by this one

[UgandaPanda]

Idk if this helps but I've hatched 45 nidoran's and none of them have their DW ability

[Joyrich]

I just wanna know if Porygon can get Analytic I've reset a couple of times no luck. So i'm letting him chill in the computer until I get confirmation. Lol.

[Aizen805]

I just wanna know if Porygon can get Analytic I've reset a couple of times no luck. So i'm letting him chill in the computer until I get confirmation. Lol.

Considering it has three abilities to choose from, I highly doubt it.

[Monkeeman]

I was also curious about this as well so when i was going for a sandile that had attack up and something down other then speed i had to hatch 26 eggs. All of those eggs had natures that were not dream world. And as a heads up i went through quite a few eevees when i wanted it to be modest. took me 35 minutes of resetting and none of them had its dream world ability. Hopefully i wasn't just "unlucky"

[Berivik]

I can confirm if a pokemon has three possible abilities they won't have their hidden ability. I was attempting to catch a simple ability woobat and was using a kirlia with trace to check the abilities. I believe I found about 15 woobat and none of them had simple but the unaware/klutz script was about 50/50.

In response to Ame I started playing in chapter 6 and don't remember ever catching a pokemon with a hidden ability, I had just started then though so I may have just not caught one.

THOUGHT: This is just speculation but from my understanding pokemon's abilities are determined from a random 0-9 integer (I think it is a randomly generated number). If you discount hidden abilities no pokemon has more than two abilities so certain numbers from 0-9 would mean a pokemon gets one of two abilities (if applicable). I'm not sure what the script you used to make hidden abilities normal did but it is possible, if the script simply made the hidden ability a normal ability, that pokemon with two normal abilities can't obtain the hidden ability as there are no integer values that are assigned to this 'third' normal ability. Pokemon with only one normal ability would probably have the hidden ability assigned the same integer values as 'ability two'.

Essentially the game only has integers from the 0-9 number assigned to abilities 'one' and 'two', hence the hidden ability, ability 'three' can be selected as there are no numbers that will give it.

Apologies if this isn't helpful it is just a thought I randomly had and decided I'd share it. Don't know what that script you use actually does so my idea might not even be relevant.

Edited July 12, 2013 by Berivik