My Team to the End

[Mechathulhu]

Ignore the Megas other than Charizard. Unless typing doesn't pose a threat, Charizard X is my main Mega.

All are EV Trained and ready, items are subject to change in the future for anything worth replacing.

[LilyX]

1 hour ago, Mechathulhu said:

Ignore the Megas other than Charizard. Unless typing doesn't pose a threat, Charizard X is my main Mega.

All are EV Trained and ready, items are subject to change in the future for anything worth replacing.

May I ask why you don´t want your Lucario to have Meteor Mash? Steel is not the best offensive typing, but high base power + STAB certainly makes up for that.

Does this team work for you? I feel the damage output is a little small, frail little Lucario is your only set-up mon - and he doesn´t really work as sweeper without his Mega. I think Dragon Dance Charizard would work wonders, especially considering you´re running dual screen Rotom-W.

Regarding items, I fee like wise glasses, garchompite, gardevoirite and muscle band are much less usefull than life orb, leftovers and choice specs.

[Mechathulhu]

5 hours ago, LilyX said:

May I ask why you don´t want your Lucario to have Meteor Mash? Steel is not the best offensive typing, but high base power + STAB certainly makes up for that.

Does this team work for you? I feel the damage output is a little small, frail little Lucario is your only set-up mon - and he doesn´t really work as sweeper without his Mega. I think Dragon Dance Charizard would work wonders, especially considering you´re running dual screen Rotom-W.

Regarding items, I fee like wise glasses, garchompite, gardevoirite and muscle band are much less usefull than life orb, leftovers and choice specs. 

I have to do some more research on getting other items together, afaik the only items I have out of the list you suggested are the choice specs iirc. Lucario didn't have Meteor Mash since I didn't end up breeding for it specifically, generally I don't plan on breeding with egg moves in mind a lot, which I should probably do more often, I just get a team idea in my head and go to town without much regard to that kind of thing, which is honestly an oversight. I haven't had all that many problems with the team so far, but I don't deny there's room for improvement if I so choose to breed and retrain some Pokes to make the suggestions achievable.

[Mechathulhu]

@LilyX So, I ended up retraining Charizard with Dragon Dance, whenever I can find the other battle items I'll complete my team then, I'm not too worried about Lucario though. Depending on the match I can substitute Charizard's Mega with Lucario's Mega when that becomes available for scenarios where Charizard wouldn't be as prudent, also Greninja has Choice Specs now for some fun times.

[Mechathulhu]

Alrighty, made a few minor changes, but the team is pretty much set, I have been enjoying the results thus far!

All the Pokemon are now outfitted with suggested battle items and I re-worked the movesets to better benefit the team in both STAB and utility

 

Figured I would give Rotom-W Will-O-Wisp instead since he sets the screens himself and has the bulk, and its health can always be maintained by potions, helps me setup without switching to another mon.

 

 

Literally just added Dragon Dance and removed Will-O-Wisp from Charizard X, better utilizing the movepool.

 

 

Despite Meteor Mash not being a thing on this set, I have a Rotom-W who will provide some opportunities to at least setup with Swords Dance, there are always opportunities to setup under favorable typing as well regardless.

 

 

Figured I'd add Choice Specs to Gardevoir adding to that power of hers. Dazzling Gleam has been changed back to Moonblast since I took this screenshot so ignore that, I just used her to collect my battle items and didn't Heart Scale it back in yet.

 

 

Greninja was also given Choice Specs cause I had good coverage on him, yeah, I could Life Orb, but if the OHKOs present themselves obvious, might as well take the plunge.

 

 

I threw Life Orb on Garchomp as well for more Physical power, I do have Choice Band/Scarf if I feel like I need them, but whatever works really.

And so, the team is more or less set, depending if I choose to alter it more in the future for certain reasons, like actually getting Meteor Mash on Lucario cause I know all too well the improvement that would bring now, might have to catch myself a Smeargle in the near future if I go to the trouble, either way, that's it for now!

[LilyX]

10 hours ago, Mechathulhu said:

Alrighty, made a few minor changes, but the team is pretty much set, I have been enjoying the results thus far!

All the Pokemon are now outfitted with suggested battle items and I re-worked the movesets to better benefit the team in both STAB and utility

 

Figured I would give Rotom-W Will-O-Wisp instead since he sets the screens himself and has the bulk, and its health can always be maintained by potions, helps me setup without switching to another mon.

 

 

Literally just added Dragon Dance and removed Will-O-Wisp from Charizard X, better utilizing the movepool.

 

 

Despite Meteor Mash not being a thing on this set, I have a Rotom-W who will provide some opportunities to at least setup with Swords Dance, there are always opportunities to setup under favorable typing as well regardless.

 

 

Figured I'd add Choice Specs to Gardevoir adding to that power of hers. Dazzling Gleam has been changed back to Moonblast since I took this screenshot so ignore that, I just used her to collect my battle items and didn't Heart Scale it back in yet.

 

 

Greninja was also given Choice Specs cause I had good coverage on him, yeah, I could Life Orb, but if the OHKOs present themselves obvious, might as well take the plunge.

 

 

I threw Life Orb on Garchomp as well for more Physical power, I do have Choice Band/Scarf if I feel like I need them, but whatever works really.

And so, the team is more or less set, depending if I choose to alter it more in the future for certain reasons, like actually getting Meteor Mash on Lucario cause I know all too well the improvement that would bring now, might have to catch myself a Smeargle in the near future if I go to the trouble, either way, that's it for now!

I like it much better now. Only four points:

- I think dual screen Rotom works better they way you had it in the beginning, with Thunderbolt over Will-o-Wisp. (Alternatively one could go with a set of  Hydro Pump, Thunderbolt, Will-o-Wisp and Pain Split, but that wouldn´t work as well with your set-up mons.)

- Life Orb on Greninja is much better in my opinion. The difference in damage isn´t that big, since Greninja has relatively low special attack (e.g. the difference between 1.3 x 0.1 and 1.5 x 0.1 is much smaller than the difference between 1.3 x 1000 and 1.5 x 1000).

- Garchomp is kinda weird on the team. I think there are much better options. (Edit: Is that the Garchomp I traded you as a Gible? If so: I changed my mind, my little lady is the most important part of your team - definitely 100%)

- I wanted to take a break from trading, but I think I can make one exception: I have a shiny Riolu with Meteor Mash and pretty good IVs. Interested?

 

 

Anyways, just some ideas. I understand if you don´t feel like changing it anymore.

[Mechathulhu]

It was something I was looking for, I am up for the trade.