Lunaethetic Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) I don't particularly know why, but I am having some real trouble with Shade. Currently, I'm using Mightyena (35), Vulpix (35), Venusaur (37), Graveler (35), Grumpig (34), and I am grinding up a Houndour for Chandelure. Vulpix/Venusaur has the Drought/Chlorophyll combo going on, to clarify. My main issue is with Chandelure, just because it does so much damage. I try to beat it with as minimal casualties as I can, but it always gets at least Mightyena and Graveler, as well as a Luxray I was swapping Houndour for. In general, Rotom and Golett and easy (Grumpig typically dies against Golett, just because I'm trying to conserve more useful pokes for Chandelure), and then Chandelure just absolutely devastates my team. Not to mention Gengar following up, and I have little to nothing to fight against it at that point. I was wondering if anyone else had any suggestions on things that worked for them? I'd greatly appreciate it! Edited July 10, 2013 by Lunaethetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroxJustice Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 What are your movesets? Try and use status moves or use set upHonestly I just used scraftyAlso just grind a little more so you're closer to 40..that's probably your biggest issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaethetic Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) What are your movesets? Try and use status moves or use set up Honestly I just used scrafty Also just grind a little more so you're closer to 40..that's probably your biggest issue Mightyena - Assurance Rock Smash Bite Swagger Grumpig - Zen Headbutt Charge Beam Psywave Magic Coat Vulpix - Confuse Ray Will-O-Wisp Hex Flamethrower Venusaur - Growth Sleep Powder Leech Seed Razor Leaf (hit level 33 in one battle, missed out on Petal Dance D: no heart scales qq) Graveler - Smack Down Rock Blast Magnitude Selfdestruct I'll grind a bit more on them, and Houndoom should help a ton with Chandelure. Do you happen to know what it's Hidden Power is? Edited July 10, 2013 by Lunaethetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtao Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Before any dramatics, everyone and their mother will tell you to use Scrafty. Arguably...If you really want to beat Shade, Scrafty is your best bet as he resists a lot of Shade's moves and can take an energy ball or shadow ball from Chandelure no problem.But if you don't wanna grind for that, train train train. If you can, make your EVs for speed for both Mightyena and Houndour better. You'd wanna outspeed all of them. Gengar should be a problem, but he isn't really bulky so a good crunch will either KO or make him use a potion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shenzou Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 The fight against Chandelure, I used my Gyarados to handle it, since it had a plus Special Defense nature and it has a type advantage of Chandelure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noivy Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 You want a Cheri Berry on your lead against him. His Rotom will troll the fuck out of you if you don't put one on your lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroxJustice Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hidden Powers depend on IV's, meaning Houndoom in general doesn't have a set Hidden Power...but your Houndoom has a set Hidden power...best way is to test it against various types to at least find its type, but power is a lot of calcs that aren't worth it..If you dont like your HIdden Power on your Houndoom (like maybe it's a HP Dark and that's a waste) then either breed a new Houndour, or don't use HP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyzenthlay Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I grinded up a Raticate because they can learn Sucker Punch, Pursuit, and Crunch (I believe?). Anyways, I had three Dark moves on a level 34 Raticate and watched Shade cry. For Chandelure, I had my Pachirisu Thunder Wave it to make it slow as balls then switched between my Samurott (Water Pulse) and Vulpix (Hex). Gengar, too, was a matter of crippling with T Wave so you can outspeed, then destroying with Raticate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaethetic Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hidden Powers depend on IV's, meaning Houndoom in general doesn't have a set Hidden Power...but your Houndoom has a set Hidden power...best way is to test it against various types to at least find its type, but power is a lot of calcs that aren't worth it..If you dont like your HIdden Power on your Houndoom (like maybe it's a HP Dark and that's a waste) then either breed a new Houndour, or don't use HP To clarify, I meant Chandelure's Hidden Power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaethetic Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 I grinded up a Raticate because they can learn Sucker Punch, Pursuit, and Crunch (I believe?). Anyways, I had three Dark moves on a level 34 Raticate and watched Shade cry. For Chandelure, I had my Pachirisu Thunder Wave it to make it slow as balls then switched between my Samurott (Water Pulse) and Vulpix (Hex). Gengar, too, was a matter of crippling with T Wave so you can outspeed, then destroying with Raticate. I noticed that Ratata got Sucker Punch really early, I'll have to try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaethetic Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Before any dramatics, everyone and their mother will tell you to use Scrafty. Arguably...If you really want to beat Shade, Scrafty is your best bet as he resists a lot of Shade's moves and can take an energy ball or shadow ball from Chandelure no problem. But if you don't wanna grind for that, train train train. If you can, make your EVs for speed for both Mightyena and Houndour better. You'd wanna outspeed all of them. Gengar should be a problem, but he isn't really bulky so a good crunch will either KO or make him use a potion. Mightyena doesn't actually learn Crunch through normal level ups D: I think Houndoom does, but not before the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RasenShot Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I had problems with Shade too... But I defeated the Chandelure with a Toxicroack/Feraligatr combination. Once the Gengar "Corey" was defeated with Toxicroack's sucker punch, I did a last effort with another SP to attack the Chandelure, it did about half of the damage, then it defeated Toxic, and switched to Feraligatr crunch... and I didn't know about the Houndour until I was about to fight Aya lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaethetic Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 I beat him this time around! I actually tried out Banette, and it was super successful. Thanks for all the help! All it took was some grinding c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildFireKyurem Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I am also having trouble with shade could someone help out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouro Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I am also having trouble with shade could someone help out I am also having trouble with shade could someone help out I used Camerupt, who could take at least one hit and then using Earth Power to get it low/kill it if weakened already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildFireKyurem Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 where could i get a numel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 where could i get a numel Northern part of Peridot ward along the train tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Ikaru Posted July 11, 2013 Administrators Share Posted July 11, 2013 ^ when it's raining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenshiD Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Mightyena - Assurance Rock Smash Bite Swagger Grumpig - Zen Headbutt Charge Beam Psywave Magic Coat Vulpix - Confuse Ray Will-O-Wisp Hex Flamethrower Venusaur - Growth Sleep Powder Leech Seed Razor Leaf (hit level 33 in one battle, missed out on Petal Dance D: no heart scales qq) Graveler - Smack Down Rock Blast Magnitude Selfdestruct I'll grind a bit more on them, and Houndoom should help a ton with Chandelure. Do you happen to know what it's Hidden Power is? Why would you have Zen Headbutt on a Grumpig!? As for general help against Shade I suggest Skuntank...Dark/Poison, learns Toxic before evolving....But Night Slash is lvl 41, so dont think about it...Easy...except for Gengar....I killed him with Bites from a Luxray.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I strat I like and works really well. Get a Gardevoir and teach it Calm Mind, Double Team, Magical Leaf, and Confusion (Psychic at Lv 40) set up enough double teams to evoid most attacks (heal using potions when needed). After that set up a few Calm Minds and then proceed to sweep. Confusion will be your main attacking move until you get psychic and use magical leaf on his spirit tomb. Don't be afraid to restart a battle if things arn't going your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildFireKyurem Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Alright so who should i replace in my team for camerupt My team Sceptile Level 37 Leaf Blade Night Slash X Scissor Quick Attack Vulpix 36 Flamethrower Flame Burst Hex Will o Wisp Crobat 36 Acrobatics Bite Wing Attack Confuse Ray Sandslash 31 Rock Smash Magnitude Dig Slash Pachirisu 32 Electro Ball Spark Charge Beam Cut Kirlia 33 Confusion Calm Mind Magical Leaf Double Team Also if you have any team suggestions please put them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strhally3 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 id say pachirichu, but thats just because i dont like pachirichu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeatherDuster Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Alright so who should i replace in my team for camerupt My team Sceptile Level 37 Leaf Blade Night Slash X Scissor Quick Attack Vulpix 36 Flamethrower Flame Burst Hex Will o Wisp Crobat 36 Acrobatics Bite Wing Attack Confuse Ray Sandslash 31 Rock Smash Magnitude Dig Slash Pachirisu 32 Electro Ball Spark Charge Beam Cut Kirlia 33 Confusion Calm Mind Magical Leaf Double Team Also if you have any team suggestions please put them I'd switch it for sandslash because they are both ground types. If you switch it for pachirisu then you would have too much weakness to water. But it's up to you and how things are working for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylonian Queen Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 For shade, I got a Donphan and a electrike and evolved it. Luckily it had the ability lightning rod. I used those 2 for rotom and used crobat and mighteana for chandelure. I also used my starter and emoga to help out. Mainly if you have a spinda, maybe use it. Or use a snubull/grandbull. Just make sure all your pokemon can use a dark type move. Hope this helped!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Actually Shade was for me the most easy boss i faced :$ Edited October 9, 2013 by DICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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