Spoiler Discussion

[R.A.M CXZ 007]

i dont mean to be pushy did we get any info on v13.5 i would like it with so much to read it

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

So why did rune borrow out all the miera regions book from the library again given she IS from the miera region and already knew all the info

[Dausk]

9 hours ago, Mei-o_Scarlett said:

So why did rune borrow out all the miera regions book from the library again given she IS from the miera region and already knew all the info

She fell into the void chasm. If you stay in for too long, you begin losing your memories.

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

so i assume its a writing issue?

so during the darclight wood scenario

i followed flora BUT i didnt talk to her

yet after the entire ordeal she was still like

oh i promised you a gym badge and thanked me for not rating her out and i was just like

what

 

and then later on

when we meet cassandra, 

erin was just like

you didnt tell cassandra about flora and im just like bruh

how the fuck do you know 

 

[R.A.M CXZ 007]

probably an text error

 

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

>She wields an unknown power called the Golden Flame

 

so tesla is gonna be super important i assume?

given that power and the fact that for some reason, having negative affinity with her gives a whopping -20

 

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

also a bit of a thonk

rift gard mentions she's been with vitus for a 1000 years which is a big wtf

 

[earthprisonpanopticon]

8 hours ago, Mei-o_Scarlett said:

She wields an unknown power called the Golden Flame

where was this text from?

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

the wikia

 

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

hmm 

so isha still talks about how he left a gift for us even tho the vaccine plot is dropped

so either

its another case of lol text

or its something else

:hmm:

 

[R.A.M CXZ 007]

text error probably .i really want to see how different quests are handled maybe we even fight kimono girls again this time might be with crest it just a possibility though

[reaper.]

So I have a theory about madame x and oh boy this is a big one.

Anathea, a normal human, meets Vitus(idk what even is he). They dated, got married and Anathea wished for children. Vitus due to his nature of origin couldn't provide her with any so he wished upon the archetype. The archetype vanished but was reborn as 4 different pieces namely Eriena, Maria, Alice and Allen. Things got bad between Anathea and Vitus and so they used Eriena to spy upon each other, which she was not able to handle and had a breakdown. The breakdown caused her to awaken her archetype power. Vitus then seals 3 of his children within the unown dimension and wiped off anathea's memory of them. Sometime later the Gardevoir tricks the policemen and so they killed anathea, thus breaking vitus's spell that was casted upon him by shayda on Anathea's request. Vitus regains his true nature and goes back to doing his 'evil' deeds.

I think everyone knows the story upto this point, everything I have said has already been revealed. The theory starts from here.

Marble mansion is destroyed and they move to chrysolis manor. Maria becomes Marianette. Maria + meloetta = Marianette, the game already plays on a lot of fusion names as it is. she must've fused with meloetta. It was said that the first known sighting of madame x was 7 years before the story starts and that gap is a lot. Like 50 something years alot. I believe during this time Marianette 'wished' for melia or something happened. Melia is Marianette's 'daughter'. Not a real biological daughter but more in the sense of how the 4 children were wished upon. The other thoery i have is that marianette tinkered with garufan 'curses', and Melia is actually Marianette but her own personality too. This is  same as how aelita is tealia's daughter and vivian's granddaughter and at the same time she is just a reincarnation of those 2 and has their memories but is a whole new personality.

And so the archetype was reborn within Melia. But it was said that if the archetype is taken out, the person dies. And here comes our 2 brilliant geniuses of the game. Katsu and Anastasia, the mother-daughter duo of rejuvenation inc and close associates of Maria. They built the armor to keep Marianette alive and Marianette now as madame x and anastasia now as nastasia made team xen. At the same place where rejuvenation inc existed.

Now why do i think this theory is credible? For a long time alot of people on this forum have been theorizing relaton between madame x and maria and melia and i think this is the best order of operations to have taken place to put everyone in place.

 

1) Madame x said that she had a mother who gave her life to protect herself. Anathea gave her life to protect Maria. She is fixated on Melia from the starting of the game. Why? because of the archetype.She placed Melia under Jenner's care so as to take her back under her when the time was right. Even at the top of eclysia pyramid when her mask breaks, someone noted that her hair color was blonde(still need confirmation from devs on this one).

 

2) For a while I thought that Melia was something like the interceptor but I replayed the game and the dark future part irked me so much regarding my theory. If she was something like the interceptor because of how erin in the den of souls commented she is maria and looks like maria but melia reiterated that she is not. Now if it were to be true, there would be no melanie but there is and she is melia's counterpart. But how does madame x knows she is? Because she knew that she went ahead with the process of creating meleanie in that timeline too because she did it in the og timeline. But this time there was no anastasia to save marianette and so she dies. Leaving melanie with 2 posessions of madame x, the time diamond and yveltal.

 

Tl;dr - Melia is mariantte's reincanated copy and marianette is madame x

 

[reaper.]

1 minute ago, reaper. said:

So I have a theory about madame x and oh boy this is a big one.

Anathea, a normal human, meets Vitus(idk what even is he). They dated, got married and Anathea wished for children. Vitus due to his nature of origin couldn't provide her with any so he wished upon the archetype. The archetype vanished but was reborn as 4 different pieces namely Eriena, Maria, Alice and Allen. Things got bad between Anathea and Vitus and so they used Eriena to spy upon each other, which she was not able to handle and had a breakdown. The breakdown caused her to awaken her archetype power. Vitus then seals 3 of his children within the unown dimension and wiped off anathea's memory of them. Sometime later the Gardevoir tricks the policemen and so they killed anathea, thus breaking vitus's spell that was casted upon him by shayda on Anathea's request. Vitus regains his true nature and goes back to doing his 'evil' deeds.

I think everyone knows the story upto this point, everything I have said has already been revealed. The theory starts from here.

Marble mansion is destroyed and they move to chrysolis manor. Maria becomes Marianette. Maria + meloetta = Marianette, the game already plays on a lot of fusion names as it is. she must've fused with meloetta. It was said that the first known sighting of madame x was 7 years before the story starts and that gap is a lot. Like 50 something years alot. I believe during this time Marianette 'wished' for melia or something happened. Melia is Marianette's 'daughter'. Not a real biological daughter but more in the sense of how the 4 children were wished upon. The other thoery i have is that marianette tinkered with garufan 'curses', and Melia is actually Marianette but her own personality too. This is  same as how aelita is tealia's daughter and vivian's granddaughter and at the same time she is just a reincarnation of those 2 and has their memories but is a whole new personality.

And so the archetype was reborn within Melia. But it was said that if the archetype is taken out, the person dies. And here comes our 2 brilliant geniuses of the game. Katsu and Anastasia, the mother-daughter duo of rejuvenation inc and close associates of Maria. They built the armor to keep Marianette alive and Marianette now as madame x and anastasia now as nastasia made team xen. At the same place where rejuvenation inc existed.

Now why do i think this theory is credible? For a long time alot of people on this forum have been theorizing relaton between madame x and maria and melia and i think this is the best order of operations to have taken place to put everyone in place.

 

1) Madame x said that she had a mother who gave her life to protect herself. Anathea gave her life to protect Maria. She is fixated on Melia from the starting of the game. Why? because of the archetype.She placed Melia under Jenner's care so as to take her back under her when the time was right. Even at the top of eclysia pyramid when her mask breaks, someone noted that her hair color was blonde(still need confirmation from devs on this one).

 

2) For a while I thought that Melia was something like the interceptor but I replayed the game and the dark future part irked me so much regarding my theory. If she was something like the interceptor because of how erin in the den of souls commented she is maria and looks like maria but melia reiterated that she is not. Now if it were to be true, there would be no melanie but there is and she is melia's counterpart. But how does madame x knows she is? Because she knew that she went ahead with the process of creating meleanie in that timeline too because she did it in the og timeline. But this time there was no anastasia to save marianette and so she dies. Leaving melanie with 2 posessions of madame x, the time diamond and yveltal.

 

Tl;dr - Melia is mariantte's reincanated copy and marianette is madame x

 

This is still nothing compared to what nymiera and vitus are. What the garufans are and how are they controlling all of this. What happened between marianette and vitus in the long time gap I mentioned. And where is he now? The game's true climax is gonna be much bigger than the identity of madame x, that I'm sure of

[R.A.M CXZ 007]

oh yeah now i really want to see the new character in v13 like v and new quests

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

lol just realized reju lowkey is just yugioh arc v

 

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

huh so the 3 component were handed down to each disciple 

makes sense

why anju has it in the palace

and the plat is in axis high which X&J prob took from hazuki

that just leaves why the pearl compartment is in the garufian underground

vivian

[R.A.M CXZ 007]

just speculation:may be spatia ,tiempa and griselda put them in there places or may be spatia put it in garufan ruins ,tiempa gave to angie and maybe griselda gave it nymiera which handed to hazuki's family which was stolen or probably given by thomas sr to the duo

[SpookyEvelyn]

I'm gonna say it. I just got to Neo East Gearen and I automatically hate it. I liked the dark bladerunner looking city better :T

 

At least West Gearen is unchanged.

[R.A.M CXZ 007]

city is just much more cleaner due to restoration while west gearen was not allowed to be changed by blakeory according to story

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

i just realised ofc the bad ending leads to nowhere rn

its gonna be hard af to explain how even tho we're siding with team xen

we still fight the gym leaders and they give us the badges lol

so more than likely we're not gonna see anything about the bad end until at least after we fight allen and alice

 

[R.A.M CXZ 007]

whats the deal with the clear and kierrn i didnt understand anything during the game may be im dumb sorry

[Mei-o_Scarlett]

5 hours ago, Ram Cxz 007 said:

whats the deal with the clear and kierrn i didnt understand anything during the game may be im dumb sorry

ok you know how melanie is an alternate world version of melia?

 

clear and kieren are just alternate world version of xara and jan

the twist being theyre andriods, and not real people

 

[R.A.M CXZ 007]

so in a sense they are xara jean mind put on robots are they just looks like them are different people 

[Green Bean 501]

On 10/1/2021 at 2:13 AM, Mei-o_Scarlett said:

hmm 

so isha still talks about how he left a gift for us even tho the vaccine plot is dropped

so either

its another case of lol text

or its something else

:hmm:

 

He has connections to Cassandra so my guess is that he's talking about the Xenpurgis

[R.A.M CXZ 007]

i think isha gift thing is removed