Aiko Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Magus543 said: I think it's more of friends than son, like Nymeria's reaction to recognizing us is more of a friendship feeling than familial to me at least. Let's not do another Zinnia is Aster's mom fiasco. Plus the only one who has mommy speculation is Crescent. I have no mommy speculation for Crescent after the pool scene in v11. Bc if Crescent is MCs mother, well... There is a lot to answer to there. There seems to be a lot of emphasis on friends in this story, all these characters speaking of friendship and friends. That was kind of why I thought Crescent and MC were friends themselves once. To me the reason I say Adrest is the son is because why would the detail of the son, the knight, be mentioned otherwise as significant by her? There are very few throwaway details in Rejuv. Nymeria doesn't even make a note of Adrest by name until after the story gets told. Idk I'm just speculating though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kithas Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, nhehvnukl said: "(Lorna refused to go after Lavender before or after talking with her)" What do you mean by that? I don't have a transcript of the scene at hand, but I recall Lorna initially going after Lavender the night Venam decided to follow her. Lorna appeared, a pursuit ensued around the sewers, and at the end, Lorna ended up forgetting about Lavender and chatting with Venam, while Lavender ended up being found hours later, suffering from an asthma attack, not far from there. So if we go with the theory that Lorna is after the gym leaders, she failed to go after an easy target even after dealing with Venam. Unless she or Crescent have something personal against Melia, in which case Lavender would be needed as the only one who could relay Venam's confession to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhehvnukl Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, kithas said: I don't have a transcript of the scene at hand, but I recall Lorna initially going after Lavender the night Venam decided to follow her. Lorna appeared, a pursuit ensued around the sewers, and at the end, Lorna ended up forgetting about Lavender and chatting with Venam, while Lavender ended up being found hours later, suffering from an asthma attack, not far from there. So if we go with the theory that Lorna is after the gym leaders, she failed to go after an easy target even after dealing with Venam. Unless she or Crescent have something personal against Melia, in which case Lavender would be needed as the only one who could relay Venam's confession to her. "Lorna ended up forgetting about Lavender" Oh, she remembered lavender. She just decided to let her go so that she could warn Melia. "Unless she or Crescent have something personal against Melia" Melia is actually supposed to be the normal type gym leader. I'm pretty sure a NPC said that there's no current normal type gym leader too, so it could just be that. Maria gym battle was also, according to the real Jan (I have no source on this so it could be wrong), illegal so were not supposed to have the normal type gym badge too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kithas Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, nhehvnukl said: "Lorna ended up forgetting about Lavender" Oh, she remembered lavender. she just decided to let her go so that she could warn Melia. "Unless she or Crescent have something personal against Melia" Melia is actually supposed to be the normal type gym leader. I'm pretty sure a NPC said that there's no current normal type gym leader too, so it could just be that. Maria gym battle was, according to the real Jan (I have no source on this so it could be wrong), illegal so were not supposed to have the normal type gym badge too. I meant wanting her to suffer for some reason as a personal thing about her, or else she would just made a statue out of her and not Venam. And I would consider at least funny Marianette's battle, as she's actually a Gym leader, just not from our dimension, and she's (maybe?) even the same person we know would have been the Normal-type leader in our Aevium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiko Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, nhehvnukl said: "Unless she or Crescent have something personal against Melia" Melia is actually supposed to be the normal type I'm pretty sure a NPC said that there's no current normal type gym leader too, so it could just be that. Maria gym battle was, according to the real Jan (I have no source on this so it could be wrong), illegal so were not supposed to have the normal type gym badge too. At least one version has Melia say the normal gym leader passed recently. And technically we shouldn't have keta's bc he died before we got it, though we got it from his ghost. Idk how we get to be champion at this point or Lavender's bc she's hospitalized and it's stolen for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhehvnukl Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, kithas said: I meant wanting her to suffer for some reason as a personal thing about her, or else she would just made a statue out of her and not Venam. And I would consider at least funny Marianette's battle, as she's actually a Gym leader, just not from our dimension, and she's (maybe?) even the same person we know would have been the Normal-type leader in our Aevium. "and she's (maybe?) even the same person we know would have been the Normal-type leader in our Aevium." when Angie attempted to sacrifice Melia, Melia said that the feeling is familiar and we saw her turn into maria for a split second, so its pretty much confirmed that she's some alternate form of maria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhehvnukl Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Aiko said: At least one version has Melia say the normal gym leader passed recently. And technically we shouldn't have keta's bc he died before we got it, though we got it from his ghost. Idk how we get to be champion at this point or Lavender's bc she's hospitalized and it's stolen for us. We also only have the flying type badge thanks to Tiempa and Spacea, as Talon was stoned too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 TIme Travel is a doozy. Speaking off, apparently people can't remember much pre calamity. huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kithas Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Still, Marianette, Melia and Maria (and Melanie?) relationship is still not clear at all. And yes, between Keta's ghost, Marianette, Angie (in place of Kreiss), Eric (he was legal but a substitue of a substitute), Puppet Master and Souta, half of our badges are pretty irregular, if borderline illegal. And we know there's not Dark-type gym leader since Amber's father in Where Love Lies, so it's going to be more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Come to think of it, i wanna see how the League guards react to our badges. Or i want a joke that the league is so disorganized and no one even knows who the Champion is, that we are LITERALLY the first and only challenger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhehvnukl Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Sooooo does anyone remember Cosmia and Comet? The two people that copied ours and Nancy's appearance to lure people into Lorna? Well it turns out that that Cosmia is the person that kidnapped the random ass dude in Kristilline town that knew Madame X identity and was about to tell us. In other words, it seems that crescent doesn't want us to know madame x identity for some reason. Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I'm still amazed at how awkwardly handled the imposter plot point was handled. It should be priority number 1, someone is sullying our good name, and insulting the memory of our dead mom by impersonating her. Instead we just stand there and not attempt to stop the frauds, and forget about them for like 2 versions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kithas Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Magus543 said: I'm still amazed at how awkwardly handled the imposter plot point was handled. It should be priority number 1, someone is sullying our good name, and insulting the memory of our dead mom by impersonating her. Instead we just stand there and not attempt to stop the frauds, and forget about them for like 2 versions. Not only that, but it's the best clue on what's happening to petrified people in GDC, which was the issue that made us got in there in the first place. Edit: and, hey, I don't know when did it change, but α it's at 85%! Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inktalegaster Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 YA YEET 85% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck Repellent Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, inktalegaster said: YA YEET 85% Only 15% away from adding yet another percent completion bar for the beta, which will take another week or 2. *Sad gamer noises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhehvnukl Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, kithas said: Not only that, but it's the best clue on what's happening to petrified people in GDC, which was the issue that made us got in there in the first place. Edit: and, hey, I don't know when did it change, but α it's at 85%! Yay! It was changed a couple of hours ago, but lets not talk about percentage increases okay? Zumi asked us to stop as it bloats the discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, kithas said: Not only that, but it's the best clue on what's happening to petrified people in GDC, which was the issue that made us got in there in the first place. Like i said, this game has a crapton of plot points, that we don't focus on the more important ones. Like this game really needs to either focus on the important ones, or cut down some plot points. Hell, we still haven't dealt with the Vaccines yet. Edited June 24, 2019 by Magus543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave9 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I hate to ask, but when is the estimated date for the community release for V12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izetarion Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Honestly, the problem with Reborn and Rejuvenation is that it has WAY too many plot points for each version to follow. They both have a shitton of characters, which we barely remember half of, and if you don't do the sidestories, you tend to miss out on key information to the story as a whole. I like the fact that everything's interconnected, but as a whole... it's VERY easy to get lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kithas Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dave9 said: I hate to ask, but when is the estimated date for the community release for V12? Just when Alpha and Beta are done, and not a moment before! Just like Reborn, I think it's better not ask because at best you won't get an answer because there isn't. And, for the plot points, yes, I know there are a lot of things the plot is going through without looking back at all, although I believe the vaccine thing were just a "you've been here before" kind of plot point for Melia and the MC. Like just a step in that arc. And where did it say that Cosmia was the one who kidnapped the guy from Kristiline town? I've read it around here but don't recall an official source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Izetarion said: Honestly, the problem with Reborn and Rejuvenation is that it has WAY too many plot points for each version to follow. They both have a shitton of characters, which we barely remember half of, and if you don't do the sidestories, you tend to miss out on key information to the story as a whole. I like the fact that everything's interconnected, but as a whole... it's VERY easy to get lost. The constant mystery dragging doesn't help either. Let's hope we don't get lost. Ehhh? ehh? 12 minutes ago, kithas said: Just when Alpha and Beta are done, and not a moment before! Just like Reborn, I think it's better not ask because at best you won't get an answer because there isn't. And, for the plot points, yes, I know there are a lot of things the plot is going through without looking back at all, although I believe the vaccine thing were just a "you've been here before" kind of plot point for Melia and the MC. Like just a step in that arc. And where did it say that Cosmia was the one who kidnapped the guy from Kristiline town? I've read it around here but don't recall an official source It's during a sidequest in Kristiline town, the one from the help center about the Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izetarion Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Wait, did we ever get Z-Moves in the latest Rejuvenation version or is that just Reborn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhehvnukl Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, Izetarion said: Wait, did we ever get Z-Moves in the latest Rejuvenation version or is that just Reborn? Just reborn. 6 minutes ago, kithas said: Just when Alpha and Beta are done, and not a moment before! Just like Reborn, I think it's better not ask because at best you won't get an answer because there isn't. And, for the plot points, yes, I know there are a lot of things the plot is going through without looking back at all, although I believe the vaccine thing were just a "you've been here before" kind of plot point for Melia and the MC. Like just a step in that arc. And where did it say that Cosmia was the one who kidnapped the guy from Kristiline town? I've read it around here but don't recall an official source 5 minutes ago, Magus543 said: It's during a sidequest in Kristiline town, the one from the help center about the Quiz. Yep. Cosmia literally just teleports in there, says "no." And kidnaps the dude, leaving behind his bewildered sister and us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acedy Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, Magus543 said: Like i said, this game has a crapton of plot points, that we don't focus on the more important ones. Like this game really needs to either focus on the important ones, or cut down some plot points. Hell, we still haven't dealt with the Vaccines yet. I concur, with so much going on it gets pretty hectic keeping up with everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kithas Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Magus543 said: It's during a sidequest in Kristiline town, the one from the help center about the Quiz. Oh, I didn't remember it then. What I think we shouldn't have forgotten is how the gang "signed up" for the Tournament even when the last place was taken before they were in (said by Risa Raider and confirmed by the receptionist, I think) and without the apparently extensive interview needed. And I know the blame is probably going to fall into the imposters, but the logistical/administrative part of the work is still fishy. And both Reborn and Rejuv have implemented Megas and Z-moves (Namely, that nasty Extreme Eevoboost + Baton Pass in the Tournament) but not gieven them to the player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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