GreatNinja Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 -Is the red-haired girl with the Naganadel called Freya, by any chance? Why has she and Kieran relatively weak pokemon besides their UB? (Stantler, Klingklang... it's almost contradiction how less threatening they are compared to them) -In earlier Versions, we fought Nastasia with her full team. Why was that battle removed? -Why could Allen easily destroy the Garufa Machines while we, the interceptor, couldn't so easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Angel Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 When I started a new save file, I realize that there is now a personality test option we can do aside from the pick your character. What are the (canon) personalities of the MCs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhehvnukl Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Why is Xerneas the mascot of this game even though we haven't seen/ heard anything about it yet? Also Zumi responded that the reason the SS. Oceana was attacked was to gather prisoners, but didn't Nastasia said that they were there to gather Nancy, and that the kidnapping is to "silence" the witnesses? I'm sure gathering prisoners was a reason for attacking it, but it wasn't the only reason, was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canno1i Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Some questions I have was when creating Pokémon rejuvenation did you 1. Have a storyline/plot already set up for the game like a road map since the beginning and think up more new plot points as you’ve done more versions. 2. Have any unused content that was taken out story wise before the release of any of the versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMaster Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Reveal hidden contents Okay, here's one. How the heck were you able to make it so that we could swap characters, get their teams in our party, and then when it came time to swap back, we got our team back how it was before the swap? Like, is it all just pure eventing, or is there a script that goes along with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphre Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Have you considered doing "in the next episode" stuff at the end of an episode? Showing a few frames, dialogues or screens to hype future events and so we could keep speculating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16kims1 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Is there no way to activate the Hidden Library quest after Neo Gearen city is unlocked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TjTheKidd Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Quick question Since Gen 1 and 3 starters have mega evolutions and Gen 2 and 4 starters have crest, will Gen 5/6/7 and potentially/possibly Gen 8 starters have crest or anything to boost their stats, power, abilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverAngelus Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I have a question. How do I switch to the other version of my character in game? (White-haired Alain to Blue-haired Alain) The Time Splicer Stone in Valor Mountain is shattered for some reason and with the sewers revamped, I see no Time Splicer Stone there either. EDIT: Does not need to be answered anymore, I got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Savior Morgan Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) On 7/14/2019 at 7:13 PM, SilverAngelus said: I have a question. How do I switch to the other version of my character in game? (White-haired Alain to Blue-haired Alain) The Time Splicer Stone in Valor Mountain is shattered for some reason and with the sewers revamped, I see no Time Splicer Stone there either. Expand How Far are you in the V12? , you can just change your clothes at Rhodea's penthouse in your room with the box Edit: Hope I answered your question :>) Edited July 14, 2019 by Harsh Bhakta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Awesome_One Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 If Team Xen, Bladestar and Team Anti-Assist had a version of the Team Rocket motto, what would it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredzard Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 8:12 PM, Majin J-Awesome_One said: If Team Xen, Bladestar and Team Anti-Assist had a version of the Team Rocket motto, what would it be? Expand Anti-Assist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakuryuYukio Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 will we get more backstory on Flora's Father in the future ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Awesome_One Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 8:39 PM, Fredzard said: Anti-Assist? Expand Yea. When you do 1 of the help requests in Kakori Village, they appear and they basically want people to not ask for help and fix their own problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredzard Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 9:01 PM, Majin J-Awesome_One said: Yea. When you do 1 of the help requests in Kakori Village, they appear and they basically want people to not ask for help and fix their own problems. Expand Oh...I didn't do their sidequests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Zumi Posted July 14, 2019 Author Veterans Share Posted July 14, 2019 Hey guys, a little reminder to not use this thread for inquiries about the game a la bug reports and save file issues! This is moreso to ask about the development/story of the game or personal questions specifically for the devs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossman123 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 10:11 PM, Zumi said: So... Lately we've been receiving a lot of questions in regards to the game -- more specifically about the story. We would like to clear a couple of these doubts or questions up, so this thread will remain open for a week to ask about anything in regards to Rejuvenation! This could be about the storyline, but also about the background or behind-the-scenes stuff in regards to the creation or writing of the story. Or, you could just ask the dev team how they've been experiencing development so far! The thread is meant less for the technical aspect of the development -- but if you're curious, you can still ask questions about it. Answers will mostly be provided by @Jan and me, but it's possible that other dev members like Azery (change ur name binch!!! i cAN'T @ U), @Winter or @Alex chime in from time to time as well if they're able to answer the questions better than others can! Hopefully we'll be able to clear up any doubts or questions you might still have. We'd like you to stay courteous however -- any crude questions (i.e. "can you kill off this character bc they suck") will be ignored and removed. Aaaand of course we won't be able to give clear answers about most unreleased content, though that should speak for itself. Before you post in this thread, we'd like to answer three of the most prominent questions that have been asked lately. We'd like you to read these thoroughly before posting! If these questions are repeated in the thread, they will be deleted as well. ================== You're finally going to get one in V13! No. There have never been plans for romance routes, or a set romance at all. The MC is not going to end up dating someone whatsoever -- And the relationship points you gain from hanging out with characters are not used for romantic intentions, but rather will affect how future events might play out later in the game. Right now there's no direct notable consequences, but they will affect future events, so they are still important. No. Melia has no romantic feelings towards the player. Instead, Melia is in love with Venam and vice versa -- They simply haven't outright confessed to each other yet. There's been multiple hints towards this and proper buildup as well, but Venam and Melia definitely are attracted to each other in the romantic sense -- not in just the platonic sense. ================== If you've got all that, go ham! We'll be happy to answer your questions! The thread will be open for a week, after that it'll close. A new thread might be made after V13, but that's still up in the air so we'll see around the time that's out. Still gonna take a while unfort Have fun! Expand I have one welllll three questions. 1) Will Mosely come back to the main story? 2) Will Ana from the children quest go into the main story? 3) I know at one point mosely had feelings towards the main character. Will there be anyone else that has feelings towards the main character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16kims1 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) Sorry if this was asked already. But, is Jan the only who works on the story/writing, or is it a group effort? Or was the plot already planned out at some point? Edited July 15, 2019 by 16kims1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetrololAce Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Am I the only one who feels the story and its characters have gotten a bit convoluted? Its something I've been feeling for a while now, but the situation with Nim has really made me feel like characters have gotten out of control in this game. I feel it is a symptom of the episodic releases, where we are away for some months, then come back to massive character development minutes into the episode. Not that any of this is bad, but how have you managed it? Is the story written to completion already with structured plans and finales for all these characters? I worry that introducing so many characters in so many different contexts will be very overwhelming when, down the road, some one tries to play through this fully released game in a couple sittings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmalade Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I haven't finished v12 yet, so sorry if these questions are already answered in the current release! Seeing as the Garufa tried to keep mega evolution locked away in the hidden library, is that mega ring special compared to other mega rings or are characters that can currently mega evolve associated with the Garufa in some way? Also, will we see more Sharon and Eli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyphre Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Also i have another question. First, considering the events with doctor Isha, is Mosley questline now officially missable unless you do it by the end of v12? Are you okay with quests being missable or do you plan do implement some way of warning players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRS swag Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 This thread was a great idea. A bow to whoever came up with this. Now, I have a few questions, just my predictions: Reveal hidden contents Did Nastasia and Madame X decide wrongly about Ren in Blacksteeple Castle about him being one of the dark prophecies (the path of betrayal, if it's called that, cuz that was also there in v8 and v9 in the Hidden Library basement)? Coz Ren seems pretty chill and `Staassia too. Maybe Team Xen was a group of totally misunderstood people, atleast the executives, admins and higher ranking grunts, except maybe Cassandra. I've been playing Rejuv since V8 and it's like totally undergoing rapid metamorphosis every episode. There was a battle with Ren/Nastasia v/s MC/Melia. Is there a possible explanation as to why it was removed? If I remember correctly, she had a Kantonian Ninetales as one of her pokemon. Reveal hidden contents Since the Normal gym badge is now a key, do we have to fight a new Normal type leader? There is a lady in GDC Main Street in one of the buldings near Pokecenter, she says that her daughter and she came from Kanto to Gearen city and then to GDC. Could that be a hint to one of our gym leaders? This question is actually linked to the 4th one. Is Deagan from WLL still alive? Could he still be the Dark - type gym leader? Building onto it, could Alexandra or Nancy (if she is still alive) be a Fairy - type gym leader? Coz, Dragon-Fairy relationship is pretty much like Damien and Alexandra. Alexandra always gets her way, even with Damien trying his best. Are you open to suggstions on Crests? I can totally help you out..... How did you come across the idea of Dimensional Rift Pokemon? I totally love that idea. I can help you there too if needed... Could Jan be the champion in-game? Just for fun, which do you prefer: Milk and then Cornflakes or Cornflakes and then Milk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Zumi Posted July 15, 2019 Author Veterans Share Posted July 15, 2019 back at it again at krispy kreme, lesgooooo Reveal hidden contents On 7/14/2019 at 9:01 AM, Generic Gamer said: Well, i have a few questions here for the devs, if they'd so kindly answer! 1) What was the most frustrating thing to deal with during the development of a new version of Reborn? 2) What is all of your favorite foods? 3) What is the favorite foods of all the main cast? 4) What pieces of Music (could be from any source) would be the Main PC's/The Interceptor's Theme? 5) Out of sheer curiosity....was "Mr. Ren" Nastasia's Childhood Crush? yes, i totally ship them 6) Is the Tournament inspired by a Tournament arc from another videogam/anime/manga? (like the N1 Grand Prix from Megaman Battle Network 3) Sorry for the little bombardment of questions, just wanted to ask a few questions that were nagging me at the back of my head. Expand 1) Don't you mean Rejuvenation? hehe Also I'd probably say that the most frustrating part is when a game breaking bug shows up that can't directly be alluded to its source, like the window resizing bug or the team replacement bug that showed up in V12. Can't speak for Jan but from my own observations Jan also really doesn't like eventing puzzles LOL 2) (i'll have to edit this as time goes on bc i didn't get answers from everyone yet LOL) Jan - Pizza/Burger/desserts Zumi - Curry Madras/Stone oven pizza Azery - Winter - Alex - Cake Inuki - Sardines - Icy - Ice Cream Ramiru - Noodles Smooge - 3) I think @Jan can answer this one better than i can sdhjsdhsd 4) I guess Painful truth would make the most sense? Both the title screen version and the updated version. 5) Doubt it, it's probably just a politeness thing 6) Nope, very likely just inspired by the world tournament from B/W2! On 7/14/2019 at 10:13 AM, yume said: Ahh, when I saw this thread 2 days ago I was like "omg this is awesome, I have questions... but I can't remember any of them right now o-o", then I saw that it's only open for a week and was even more like "omgggg", so this morning I thought about some things I'd like to ask. (This could get a bit lengthy.) First of all though, thank you for the opportunity and also thanks for making Rejuvenation, Jan, Zumi and dev team I fell in love with the game and kinda "marathon-ed" it in a week when I played it for the first time last September (after my bro had recommended it to me ). I also did an intense run in ~Feb/March and boy that was hard, haha. Anyways, feel hugged, you guys, for making such an awesome game! Keep up the good work, but don't forget to take breaks Here are my questions: Development & technical questions 1) So, idk if this was ever mentioned, but who is part of the development crew and who does what? Also, which part is the most / least fun for you while developing the game? I'm kinda curious about that. 2) What was the weirdest or most unexpected bug you've experienced during development until now? And which feature was the hardest to implement until now? 3) Will the in-game menu from V11 come back sometime? I read it was removed because it was laggy for some people, but are you considering to add it again if you can manage to reduce the lag? (I thought it was really pretty, but can't do anything about it if it doesn't work properly, sadly ) Characters & story 4) I know Zumi said the ages of our main characters are more or less up to our own imagination (or ~18 years), but I've been wondering about the age of some other characters. Reveal hidden contents Specifically, Nastasia and Karen. Guess I can elaborate on this a bit. It's kinda obvious that Nastasia and Anastasia from the past are the same person, so if she aged normally she should be around mid fifties. Am I right about this? Karen on the other hand - I'm just not sure. From her in-game sprite I thought she'd be around Tesla's age, but her battle sprite (from the sidequest) looks younger and also guessing from her diary entries I'd say she's around the same age as Damien, Alexandra, Ryland and Adam? Talking about those four - am I guessing right that they're a bit older than the main cast? 5) Another question about ages: Who is older, Melia or Erin? 6) This one is kind of a weird question, and I might not get an answer. Reveal hidden contents Were Alice and Allen the same person? Because when they were sent to us from the toy box I remember one of them saying "so we finally separated completely" or something along the lines. I also remember back in the Unknown dimension we never saw them together on the screen at the same time. 7) Will we ever find out Alice's real name? How many of the Elite 8 have appeared in the game until now? (Just "appeared", doesn't mean "we" / our protag have met them yet). Other 9) This question goes to Jan. Since I've played Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky for the first time ever this year I've been wondering - are you a fan of the PMD series? While playing the game there were so many times when I was like "ohh, I know this song from Rejuvenation :D" 10) V12 question so I'm gonna put it in spoiler tags. Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Was the Texen part planned or was it added in because of all the people memeing Texen in the Reborn discord? Either way I laughed so much 11) Do you generally like reading the player reactions to story & sidequest content? 12) This one is addressed at all of the dev crew: What's everyone's favourite Pokemon? I think this is all for now, I knew it would get long Love you guys, I'm out Expand oogh that's a lot of questions, but i'll answer the ones i know i can answer! 1) Our team consists of @Jan, @Alex, Azery (i still can't @ him because of his username >:^( ), @Ice Cream Sand Witch, @Inuki, @Sardines, @Ramiru, @Winter, Smooge and me! 2) Prooooobably the window resizing bug that happened in V11. that stuff was BAD 3) Possibly, but until we know a method to not have a laggy menu we'll have to stick to the old one. 4) Nastasia's age is [REDACTED], but Karen is much younger than you think! She's around 27 to 28 years old. Alexandra is a bit older than Damien, Adam and Ryland, around the same age as Karen, so the other three should be in their early to mid twenties. 5) Erin is older by one or two years! 6) Perhaps :^) 7) Alice's name is Alice! 8 ) Afaik 6 have appeared so far! 9) I'll leave that answer for Jan in that case LOL 10) 100% planned! 11) Yes :^) 12) This has been answered in a previous post so I'm not gonna list them all again. Try looking up the answer in a post from one of the other devs! On 7/14/2019 at 2:10 PM, Magus543 said: Now here's something more behind the scenes, how did Kanon go from generic romantic rival to Venam and jerkass to us for some reason from what i can tell off older builds, to literally a magic construct slave? Also: Was V12 supposed to have a branching route because we were given the option to join Team Bladestar, yet V12 acts like we oppose Flora. Illusion of free will shattered. Expand Old concept was meh as Kanon was a pretty obnoxious character in past versions, kinda like a variation of Texen but with an obsession of Melia and being a jackass to anyone else??? and one Texen is more than enough LOL The way Kanon is written now gives him more depth, rather than being like "ha everyone but melia is a peasant", he now starts out as a guy with slight trust issues trying to figure out how he can do good in the world (and going about it slightly the wrong way during the events in Kugearen), only to later discover his purpose but also realizing he's but a servant made out of Garufan magic. I think that concept as a whole is more interesting than the holier-than-thou attitude he had before. And nope! No branches. Flora had no intentions of playing friendly. On 7/14/2019 at 2:13 PM, GreatNinja said: -Is the red-haired girl with the Naganadel called Freya, by any chance? Why has she and Kieran relatively weak pokemon besides their UB? (Stantler, Klingklang... it's almost contradiction how less threatening they are compared to them) -In earlier Versions, we fought Nastasia with her full team. Why was that battle removed? -Why could Allen easily destroy the Garufa Machines while we, the interceptor, couldn't so easily? Expand 1 & 2) Can't answer that, sorry! The second one moreso because I actually don't know LOL, someone else might be able to tell you that. Probably story reasons tho. 3) he's got the power of god and anime the Unown on his side uwu On 7/14/2019 at 2:34 PM, Winter Angel said: When I started a new save file, I realize that there is now a personality test option we can do aside from the pick your character. What are the (canon) personalities of the MCs? Expand Aevis: Confident Aevia: Reserved Axel: A tricky memester Ariana: Peppy Alain: Annoyed 24/7 Aero: Studious and cool On 7/14/2019 at 3:20 PM, Canno1i said: Some questions I have was when creating Pokémon rejuvenation did you 1. Have a storyline/plot already set up for the game like a road map since the beginning and think up more new plot points as you’ve done more versions. 2. Have any unused content that was taken out story wise before the release of any of the versions. Expand 1) Rejuv used to have an on-the-fly story, but since V6 it's actually had a roadmap for the remainder of development. The story's already been planned up until V16, the last version! 2) We do! There's a couple of characters that used to be more important as well as a good amount of maps and story points but haven't been used in the modern versions of Rejuv in favor of having a better and more comprehensive story. On 7/14/2019 at 3:22 PM, DarkMaster said: Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Okay, here's one. How the heck were you able to make it so that we could swap characters, get their teams in our party, and then when it came time to swap back, we got our team back how it was before the swap? Like, is it all just pure eventing, or is there a script that goes along with it? Expand Pretty sure it's done entirely through eventing and the use of variables and switches! On 7/14/2019 at 4:41 PM, Cyphre said: Have you considered doing "in the next episode" stuff at the end of an episode? Showing a few frames, dialogues or screens to hype future events and so we could keep speculating. Expand You do get a title, but it's pretty hard to show frames of content that hasn't been made at that point, now isn't it? Dialogue maybe, but that might just end up being confusing so it's best to wait until stuff is shown off in the dev thread. On 7/15/2019 at 2:06 AM, 16kims1 said: Sorry if this was asked already. But, is Jan the only who works on the story/writing, or is it a group effort? Or was the plot already planned out at some point? Expand Jan does pretty much all of the story/writing, yes. He's the one who planned it out as well! On 7/15/2019 at 3:11 AM, MetrololAce said: Am I the only one who feels the story and its characters have gotten a bit convoluted? Its something I've been feeling for a while now, but the situation with Nim has really made me feel like characters have gotten out of control in this game. I feel it is a symptom of the episodic releases, where we are away for some months, then come back to massive character development minutes into the episode. Not that any of this is bad, but how have you managed it? Is the story written to completion already with structured plans and finales for all these characters? I worry that introducing so many characters in so many different contexts will be very overwhelming when, down the road, some one tries to play through this fully released game in a couple sittings. Expand A lot of it may seem convoluted right now, but that's most definitely the result of episodic release. It's much easier to understand each character's arcs when you binge play the game, but as the game stands unfinished right now, it's harder to give everyone answers immediately. Unfortunately this'll likely remain a problem until the game's complete :^( Most of the characters already have their fates determined for them, though! You'll receive your answers in due time :^) On 7/15/2019 at 9:45 AM, Cyphre said: Also i have another question. First, considering the events with doctor Isha, is Mosley questline now officially missable unless you do it by the end of v12? Are you okay with quests being missable or do you plan do implement some way of warning players? Expand Rn it's still possible to do the Lost Camp post V12, but this will likely be patched out in a later version. The hidden library quest also becomes missable after a certain point, and while a warning would help in some cases, the player does have a good amount of time to do these quests from the time they become available, so on the other hand it could be seen as repercussion for ignoring the quest for too long. On 7/15/2019 at 12:34 PM, BRS swag said: This thread was a great idea. A bow to whoever came up with this. Now, I have a few questions, just my predictions: Reveal hidden contents Did Nastasia and Madame X decide wrongly about Ren in Blacksteeple Castle about him being one of the dark prophecies (the path of betrayal, if it's called that, cuz that was also there in v8 and v9 in the Hidden Library basement)? Coz Ren seems pretty chill and `Staassia too. Maybe Team Xen was a group of totally misunderstood people, atleast the executives, admins and higher ranking grunts, except maybe Cassandra. I've been playing Rejuv since V8 and it's like totally undergoing rapid metamorphosis every episode. There was a battle with Ren/Nastasia v/s MC/Melia. Is there a possible explanation as to why it was removed? If I remember correctly, she had a Kantonian Ninetales as one of her pokemon. Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Since the Normal gym badge is now a key, do we have to fight a new Normal type leader? There is a lady in GDC Main Street in one of the buldings near Pokecenter, she says that her daughter and she came from Kanto to Gearen city and then to GDC. Could that be a hint to one of our gym leaders? This question is actually linked to the 4th one. Is Deagan from WLL still alive? Could he still be the Dark - type gym leader? Building onto it, could Alexandra or Nancy (if she is still alive) be a Fairy - type gym leader? Coz, Dragon-Fairy relationship is pretty much like Damien and Alexandra. Alexandra always gets her way, even with Damien trying his best. Are you open to suggstions on Crests? I can totally help you out..... How did you come across the idea of Dimensional Rift Pokemon? I totally love that idea. I can help you there too if needed... Could Jan be the champion in-game? Just for fun, which do you prefer: Milk and then Cornflakes or Cornflakes and then Milk? Expand 1) Can't tell! 2) Like mentioned above, story fluidity reasons probably. 3) Reveal hidden contents Nope! the badge is still on your trainer card, so it's still legit 4) Nah, it's not that deep LOL 5) Can't answer that! 6) You can suggest them but it's up to the others to choose if they'll actually use the idea lmao 7) Inspired by PULSE mons, likely. Just a little different! 8 ) Who knows? 9) cornflakes then milk is the only way and if you do it the other way around you're a heaten and should be put in jail for cereal crimes By the way, as a little heads up, please understand we will not be able to answer 99% of your questions about future content, as we don't want to accidentally spoil anyone. Please keep this in mind before asking your questions as we'd rather not continuously have to tell you that we can't say! 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderowl Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I know I said that I'm done with asking questions, but I just want to ask one more. Has anyone played a Persona game and if so, which one is your favorite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I knew Flora was a snake, and so did the dev team. I had a feeling Kanon's character was retconed, though i feel he still has Texen in him, but more bumbling and innocently insensitive than Texen's cruelty, i guess some people can relate. Also WHAAT??? Karen is only 27ish? I think it's because of her overworld sprite, and her general demeanor that made people think she was in Tesla's age range. I still remember the double take i had when i saw her sprite. Also the fact that the MCs have canon personalities both amuses me and horrifies me, if we consider the implications. Hell yeah, Axel and i would get along, no wonder i picked him as my possible meat puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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