V13 Discussion Thread

[Tikkit]

39 minutes ago, Draconis said:

Yeah, I don't know who I should send to the backrooms. Freya or Crescent?

Crecent and her virgin Gothitelle, not Freya and her chad Beheeyem.

[MhicKy]

45 minutes ago, Tikkit said:

Crecent and her virgin Gothitelle, not Freya and her chad Beheeyem.

The Beheeeyem Crest is a little too OP in my opinion..
It's a Psychic Type that is quite tanky and does A LOT of damage..

[Edo]

4 hours ago, enderowl said:

The thing I want to know about is the location of where the protagonist and Keta are.  Only thing I remember having that color scheme was the pyramid, the underwater buildings, and the obelisk that is near Sashilla Village/the place where Nymiera and the protagonist will meet again (According to Nymeria herself when she and the rest of the Protectors of Aevium went into that room that was sealed off before the Rift Gardevoir Fight).

It kinda looks like it could be the Xen HQ near the pyramid. The obelisk and those underwater buildings all have the same futuristic design and architecture as the pyramid. Why would Keta's body be in such a location? Madelis was the last one confirmed to see him, so Team Xen is most likely to be in possession of his body.

 

And he could be both dead or alive. The part of his soul residing in Amethyst grotto ascended and the statue appeared in the grotto.

Spoiler

Iirc, in WWL they say they need 5 sacrifices for the Last Ditch project (was that the name?)

So his statue appearing there indicates that he really might be dead, and what we see on the picture is his corpse, possibly used for experiments to turn him into some kinda doll.

On the other hand, he lived for years separated from that part of his soul, so it might be possible for him to be unaffected by the spiritual part's ascension. So as punishment for his betrayal, Madelis, or perhaps even Nastasia, locked him up there. I think this option is more likely than the former.

 

Well, after WWL, I just want him to clear up the misunderstandings with Tesla, Aelita and Taelia so he doesn't have to be so bitter anymore and become happy

Edited April 9, 2020 by Edo

[ABoringGuy]

5 hours ago, Itamar said:

 

I actually think that keta is alive because Irvin told us that the soul stone was empty, and in the picture we see keta trapped in a bubble so he is alive. The only question left about him is: how did he survive?

I think that's kanon though.

[MhicKy]

20 minutes ago, Yahiro said:

I think that's kanon though.

No it isn't, the clothes and hair are identical to Keta so it must be him, no doubts about it, besides we never ~actually~ saw Keta dying it was ~implied~ he was killed by Mewtwo but we never saw any bodies soooo.. Maybe Madelis lied about killing him just to anger Aelita and actually just captured him.. Who knows.. Either way it's weird to see Keta there..

[Itamar]

7 hours ago, Itamar said:

Irvin told us that the soul stone was empty,

This also tells us that professor Jenner is alive. I think that crescent saved him so she can torture him

[kithas]

For the Crescent theme, I think it's eel stablished that she has an obsession with the Mc/Interceptor and a l o t of her shadowy acts kind of become clear in that light:

She passes Melia for dead not for herself but for the Storm Chasers group, who wanted to recruit her. One could say that she didn't want Xen to suspect Melia escaped, with would make them suspect us. Same with Ren as a mole, she don't mind using people to gain an upper hand at her enemy, after all if they're defeated, the MC won't have to keep battling. 

She didn't tru to kill Sharon specifically but just what seemed to be a nameless Xen Grunt, who was our enemy (and actually did just battle the interceptor). 

As someone did say before in the thread, she may not even have saved us (our own power as the Interceptor may have dine the trick) but she took the chance to tell us to go love a life far from the plot anyways. 

 

And, finally, Nim stuff would also work in that favor: she would make the plot more difficult, take our friends away and isolate if that's what will take for us to stop messing with the plot.

 

Is she truly worried about the Main Character, or only wants to avoid the Interceptor messing with all the stuff that's going on? Nobody knows yet, but going by her dialogue lines in Nightmare City, we could as well have took that pleasure boat to Hoenn long ago. 

[MarLhy]

I wanted to open a discussion here about the places we still have to visit because they’re not accessible yet.

-Reldin Island (the volcano near Zone Zero where Rejuvenation Inc once was) 

-The cavern in Sashila (Sashila Trial)

-The gate in east Gearen City where the ladder is

-Neverwinter region, the only one left to explore (it’s where Blacksteeple is, But after the story we can’t go back there because it’s in Neverwinter) I believe the region will be accessible via the ship in route 10. Kreiss lives in a town there

-Axis High University (interior) 

- “Sewers” in Grand Dream City

-Obviously the league (I think it’s in Neverwinter)

If you know more let me know

Edited April 9, 2020 by MarLhy

[Edo]

There's also the Dreamyard next to Darchlight Woods and the Poiloethal Forest to the east of Sashila.

[kithas]

The volcano island is the one Team Xen HQ is in, so probably in the final act agoainst them we'll conquer it or something. The gate in Gearen seems to lead to a sidequest, and the Axis High interior I think is the one we'll see more from in v13. The Dreamyard is the place west to the Darchlight forest!

 

Edit: We also don't know what's behind that door around River's end (Where Venam's father is with Type:Null's quest) or west to the entrance to the power plant in west gearen!

[MarLhy]

Oh right, the forest! I don’t remember about what that Dreamyard is though.

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Edited April 9, 2020 by MarLhy

[MhicKy]

This entire thread turned is now Crescent Themed..
I don't like her.. I don't trust her.. Maybe she is the MC father, who knows?! If we gonna delve into Crescent Madness!!!

[Aphelli]

What I am also interested in is how the devs feel when they read through all this theory-crafting. 

How do they refrain from wanting to answer, to talk about their design, how they see their characters?

[MhicKy]

1 minute ago, Mindlack said:

What I am also interested in is how the devs feel when they read through all this theory-crafting. 

How do they refrain from wanting to answer, to talk about their design, how they see their characters?

I am sure they are adoring the fact people are THAT interested in their story at the point we are creating these theories and shit 
BUT, at the same time, must be really painful to just stay quiet and not join in, at least that's how I would feel if someone was interested in a story I am creating but can't spoil for anyone yet

[Edo]

I'm sure they enjoy laughing at our ''stupid'' theories.

 

 

 

Just kidding, I can imagine them being happy that their work became so well-liked

[Tikkit]

Yeah, I would be happy if people spent their time theorizing and debating over my work, especially when it's civil debating and not arguing and insulting.

[Zumi]

4 hours ago, Mindlack said:

What I am also interested in is how the devs feel when they read through all this theory-crafting. 

How do they refrain from wanting to answer, to talk about their design, how they see their characters?

It's funny this is brought up, actually! 

 

Yesterday I was part of a similar conversation w/ Jan and a couple of others where the same question was asked, and we actually do really enjoy reading all the theories! Even if some of them are horribly off-base, LOL. Some others we've seen are actually close to the truth, or hit the nail right on the head! Or the conclusion is correct, but the way they reached said conclusion is completely wrong. Or or or, the theory was on the right track and then suddenly veered off in the completely wrong direction.

 

There's one thing that we've seen going around quite often that's just completely wrong, though... But I'm not gonna go into further detail. :^) You'll figure it out eventually.

[ausar999]

I'm just holding out for the hope that v13 will finally be the update where Truckguy becomes a romance option

 

Oh, and this a suuuuper minor thing, but also hoping for the field to be changed for some of the later-game audino trainers. Secret power putting you to sleep 30% (?) of the time can be quite tedious when you're trying to do a 1-85 grind.

[kithas]

10 minutes ago, ausar999 said:

I'm just holding out for the hope that v13 will finally be the update where Truckguy becomes a romance option

 

Oh, and this a suuuuper minor thing, but also hoping for the field to be changed for some of the later-game audino trainers. Secret power putting you to sleep 30% (?) of the time can be quite tedious when you're trying to do a 1-85 grind.

No

Truckguy and Pianolady are a ship and that's the hill I will die on.

[ArcaneArceus]

13 hours ago, Tikkit said:

I don't know, that scene happens after Valor Mountain, as the group is all on Terrial and not Terejuma.

The flashback scene doesn't have the MC or Melia in it at all, and we do have the Past Aevium/West Gearen chapter between Valor Mountain and arriving in Terrial. Plus, Saki's jumpy-robot-thingy is seen crashed behind the group who is there, and that is present when we first reach Route 7. Valerie still has blue hair, placing it as pre-GDC.

It's also Delpha's flashback, not the MC/Melia's and the (cut)scene where the flashback takes place in is 

Spoiler

while the MC is unconscious after (possibly) beating Melia and Aelita alongside Freya on top of Eclysia.

Course, that doesn't excuse her manipulation of Ren or abduction of Jenner, but it could explain the change between "down with team Xen/interest in the Interceptor" and "let's kill Melia's friends".

[Delta3416]

3 hours ago, kithas said:

No

Truckguy and Pianolady are a ship and that's the hill I will die on.

I agree.

 

The only way we can really explain Crescent’s behaviour is that some of the characters we thought were on our side may turn out to be evil. It’s anyone’s guess who those actually are.

[Itamar]

1 hour ago, Delta3416 said:

The only way we can really explain Crescent’s behaviour is that some of the characters we thought were on our side may turn out to be evil. It’s anyone’s guess who those actually are.

Reina told us that a medium told her mom that one of her kids is gonna be good and the other one will be evil, so probably Ren/Reina will turn evil.

[Tikkit]

4 minutes ago, Itamar said:

Reina told us that a medium told her mom that one of her kids is gonna be good and the other one will be evil, so probably Ren/Reina will turn evil.

Or Crescent is just a bad person and her actions aren't justified at all, and that she's doing these things out of her weird obsession with us. Anyway, Ren joined a Terrorist organization, so close enough to becoming evil?

[Itamar]

20 minutes ago, Tikkit said:

Anyway, Ren joined a Terrorist organization, so close enough to becoming evil?

I guess it counts

[Kyublivion]

48 minutes ago, Itamar said:

Reina told us that a medium told her mom that one of her kids is gonna be good and the other one will be evil, so probably Ren/Reina will turn evil.

Whos to say what the medium saw wasnt Ren joining team Xen as a mole but didnt realize Ren was a mole? Plus the future is finicky especially since the player is here. Then again its been a while since i got to that part so there could have been more said about it than i remember.