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1 hour ago, Gastronely said:

Nim/Lorna has a grudge against basically everyone involved in the Terajuma's arc, since she thinks they let her to die, or something like that

Ehhh, yeah, I suppose. But I don't think Nim even met Saki. The only time they could have interacted was on the boat.

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2 hours ago, Draconis said:
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I really hope we can fix Nim. Personally, I don't think she deserved any of this.

 

THE POINT IS SHE MUST ATONE HER SINS. Sorry, I'm being mad because of her actions as Lorna. And it's also the fault of Crescent. Never trust the gods or manipulative humans. I don't know how to feel.

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35 minutes ago, RoyChaos said:

THE POINT IS SHE MUST ATONE HER SINS. Sorry, I'm being mad because of her actions as Lorna. And it's also the fault of Crescent. Never trust the gods or manipulative humans. I don't know how to feel.

What sins? That's like saying we gotta beat up

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Crescent's Mewtwo because it killed Keta while under the control of Madelis and while a shadow pokemon. 

 

Anyway, I like Nim, and hopefully by the end of this the power of friendship makes her mellow out or something.

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7 hours ago, Tikkit said:

Ehhh, yeah, I suppose. But I don't think Nim even met Saki. The only time they could have interacted was on the boat.

Well, Lorna felt that she had to get revenge on VENAM, of all people, who didn't even arrived on Terajuma until Nim was already a statue... 

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1 hour ago, kithas said:

Well, Lorna felt that she had to get revenge on VENAM, of all people, who didn't even arrived on Terajuma until Nim was already a statue... 

I think that's more of a revenge by proxy. She wanted to get revenge on say, Melia or Adam or Valerie or whomever, and either Crescent told her that Venam was friends with them, or she came to that conclusion by herself.

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I keep on looking at Saki's Twitter, and I am worrying about it.  She hasn't post anything since the last tweet of her saying that someone is stalking her at around 11:50 pm last night.  Normally she would post daily, but I don't see any tweets yet. 

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I want to "fix" Nim by punching her hard in the face and scream "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! DO YOU HAVE ~ANY~ IDEA WHAT WE'VE BEEN THOUGH FOR YOU?! YOU UNGRATEFUL SEAL!!"

But still.. That part DID pissed me off, we had SOOO MUCH TROUBLE to save her.. The whole Terajuma arc was basically "Let's save Nim, you guys!" and then she turns like this.. Really?! REALLY?! Melia lost her (adopted) father and we literally DIED for her and then THAT?!

Also, this damn gate TAUNTING ME!!
 

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1 hour ago, MhicKy said:

I want to "fix" Nim by punching her hard in the face and scream "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! DO YOU HAVE ~ANY~ IDEA WHAT WE'VE BEEN THOUGH FOR YOU?! YOU UNGRATEFUL SEAL!!"

But still.. That part DID pissed me off, we had SOOO MUCH TROUBLE to save her.. The whole Terajuma arc was basically "Let's save Nim, you guys!" and then she turns like this.. Really?! REALLY?! Melia lost her (adopted) father and we literally DIED for her and then THAT?!

Also, this damn gate TAUNTING ME!!
 

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Bro I have you forgotten. Nim didn't become like this on her own free will. Crescent literally brainwashed her to take on this "Lorna" personaility and no doubt told her lies. A good example of said lie: like how we were the only ones to try rescue her, while everyone else didn't try to rescue her. Which is completily false. So, if there anyone to blame for this whole mess is Crescent

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48 minutes ago, Rising Emperor said:

Bro I have you forgotten. Nim didn't become like this on her own free will. Crescent literally brainwashed her to take on this "Lorna" personaility and no doubt told her lies. A good example of said lie: like how we were the only ones to try rescue her, while everyone else didn't try to rescue her. Which is completily false. So, if there anyone to blame for this whole mess is Crescent

It's like Crescent is telling some propaganda things.

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26 minutes ago, RoyChaos said:

It's like Crescent is telling some propaganda things.

Exactly. I tell you what, when I finally get my mitts on Crescent, imma kick her ass right into [REDACTED]!

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24 minutes ago, Draconis said:

Exactly. I tell you what, when I finally get my mitts on Crescent, imma kick her ass right into [REDACTED]!

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52 minutes ago, RoyChaos said:

It's like Crescent is telling some propaganda things.

Given how obsessed, that seems to be the right word here, Crescent seems to be with the player characters as a whole it wouldnt surprise me if she set this up with the intent to swoop in and save the day again like on Valor Mountain. I could just be expecting the worst though. 

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Not a big fan of the playable characters, so I decided to do some googling and settle on renaming sprites to repurpose another character as my avatar. i chose ren, but im just wondering: while i like ren's look, something tells me that his "edginess" may be a vital part of his personality/characterization, and he may make less sense as a character if i swap his sprite with say..............the redheaded male mc?

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2 hours ago, RoyChaos said:

It's like Crescent is telling some propaganda things.

We know for a fact that that's what she pulled- Nim herself practically admits it herself (albeit through her twisted perspective as the victim of the scheme) to Venam and Aelita (the latter of which was part of the Blacksteeple crew, so Nim definitely knows her) when they tried to explain the truth to her. And this ignoring the scene after our failure on Mt. Valor that shows us the part of the conversation where Crescent renames her. (That's another thing to add to Crescent's list of sins, by the way: stripping away another's identity while they're feeling at their lowest. That's just a dirty play right there)

 

Let's not forget that Crescent's tried to pull a similar bit of manipulation even closer to home. Remember how she tried to convince us that she saved our lives the first time our Interceptor powers kicked in? Sure, we might know that to be utter hogwash nowadays, between triggering it again in the ruined timeline in V10 and perusing the sunken archives in V12, but there was still a substantial amount of time where her claims appeared to be true. Of course, the biggest reason this bit of propaganda failed is that nobody in what was left of our group trusted her worth a hill of beans to begin with...

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4 hours ago, RoyChaos said:

It's like Crescent is telling some propaganda things.

Crescent is another character that conflicts me..
Is she helping? Is she causing trouble? What are her goals FFS..
I bet it's going to be something mind blowing and I hope we discover that in V13..

And yeah, I forgot that Crescent did something to her back in Terajuma, thanks for reminding me.. But still, to change from "You're my best friend, tehee!" to "I will murder you and all you hold dear in the universe" is not a massive 180.. But who knows.. Valarie is still not remembering who she is so some brainwashing might had happened too

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54 minutes ago, MhicKy said:

But who knows.. Valarie is still not remembering who she is so some brainwashing might had happened too

No question about that. Valarie doesn't remember us, quit her Gym Leader office to be a journalist in GDC... Obviously her mind got seriously tampered with. This happens somehow after the gang gets attacked (in Delpha's memory) by the surfers. So we even have suspects! (although, it could have happened before -- Crescent has repeatedly urged a lot of the cast to not intervene, and changing the people's minds fits this).

One weird thing though: why exactly would the gang not similarly alter the Eldest or Aelita?

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