V13 Discussion Thread

[HakuryuYukio]

5 hours ago, Kyublivion said:

I think part of this was answered somewhere, but Pokemon with both Megas and Gmax forms will be given alternate megas like Charizard X and Y. Or at least thats what i remember reading, if someone has heard otherwise feel free to correct me.

 

41 minutes ago, Zumi said:

They'll be treated as custom megas in the purest sense, and therefore mons that already have a mega will just get an extra alt mega evo (for Charizard, it'll have X, Y and G in that case)

 

And yes, some will have new abilities upon mega evolving! However, I won't be specifying which ones, so you'll just have to figure it out once V13 is out :]

Thank you two:)

 

I really hope that Mega-Lapras will get a new ability. It's my second favorite Kanto Pokemon after Venusaur. And this is the opportunity to make it great. I have faith that you guys will deliver as always. Though i'm also kinda sad because this means that Raichu will once again be outshined by Pikachu. Does Jan have any plans for a Mega-Raichu ?

[OmegaStellarSolare]

It wouldn't be a surprise after spoiling what kind of custom mega evolved pokemon would have difference on base stats and abilities. It may be revealed after V13 release. I don't know anything about mega customs. 

[Between Life and Death]

I really want there to be an Underwhere-style sequence later on in the game, where the main character gets trapped in the afterlife for a while and has to find their way out on their own.

[HakuryuYukio]

So has anyone figured out who the dark and fairy gym leaders are ? We already have saki as the steel type leader and Damien as the Dragon Leader.

 

I remember there being a patient file in the hospital of hope. It didn't show the name. But it did show the Birthplace which is Kanto, Sevii Islands. Since that happens to be the birthplace of Kenneth and Daegen, it's a possiblity that Daegen is not dead and might come out of hiding. But what has he been up to all this time ? Is it Amnesia ? That would be the only logical explanation.

And i really don't see who else it could be(unless i missed something).

 

Then we have the Fairy Leader. Some people think that it's Cosmia. But what about Cassandra ? Perhaps we will fight her in the Dreamyard. It's one of the few places that is till closed off. And i'm pretty sure that she has something to do with that.

 

What do you guys think ?

[Punch]

1 hour ago, HakuryuYukio said:

So has anyone figured out who the dark and fairy gym leaders are ? We already have saki as the steel type leader and Damien as the Dragon Leader.

 

I remember there being a patient file in the hospital of hope. It didn't show the name. But it did show the Birthplace which is Kanto, Sevii Islands. Since that happens to be the birthplace of Kenneth and Daegen, it's a possiblity that Daegen is not dead and might come out of hiding. But what has he been up to all this time ? Is it Amnesia ? That would be the only logical explanation.

And i really don't see who else it could be(unless i missed something).

 

Then we have the Fairy Leader. Some people think that it's Cosmia. But what about Cassandra ? Perhaps we will fight her in the Dreamyard. It's one of the few places that is till closed off. And i'm pretty sure that she has something to do with that.

 

What do you guys think ?

I suspect, if its Daegen, then we´ll pull some Time travel trick, to fight him in between his visit to Kenneth´s house in WLL and his Meeting with Kenneth in the Ice cave. For the Fairy Gym, i honestly got no idea, that wouldnt escalate into a wacky therorie, cuz of the little infos we have. I personally think we get a New leader in the upcomming Chapters.

[gilam]

are the moves of all the pokemons learns are going to change  in V13?

[Draconis]

So, how goes all?

[HakuryuYukio]

I have a question about Version 13. I remember when Pokemon Desolation E5 had that issue where the moves of a pokemon would be different due to the change of the move ID. I'm assuming that this happened because gen 7 was added.

 

Since V13 is adding gen 8 Mechanics which of course includes new Pokemon and new Moves, is there a chance that something like this might happen again ?

 

I'm asking because i'm doing a custom run with Keldeo on intense mode. And i don't want it to lose secret sword because of a move ID change.

[Autumn Zephyr]

It's a possibility, though it's entirely impossible to tell if it'll actually happen until the game is in our court. The Devs. do try their absolute best to kick all of the bugs out of existence by the time the community release is out, but there have been things that slip through the cracks before (decidueye learning Steam Eruption instead of Spirit Shackle in V9, for example). We'll see how it goes when the time comes.

[Between Life and Death]

All right, is Calyrex going to be added to the Badlands Arc at all? It seems too perfect not to be.

[OmegaStellarSolare]

7 hours ago, Between Life and Death said:

All right, is Calyrex going to be added to the Badlands Arc at all? It seems too perfect not to be.

That's impossible unfortunately in V13 because DLC pokemons aren't included here.

[Autumn Zephyr]

For what it's worth, the 'mon doesn't exist in the game's code doesn't mean that it's lore can't be trickled into the game's world- most of the Devs. for RBY had expected something like that to happen with Mew, even. 

 

My concern is how the two parts of Calyrex's identity work here. It does fit in nicely with the Badlands' story beats if you focus on its ability to make plants grow from otherwise barren land ruined by supernatural means (thanks, Spectrier...), but that's secondary to its status as an ancient king... and I highly doubt that the Devs. haven't already determined who and what all of the ancient kings are by now. Calyrex demands to be part of an ancient history that might not have much room for it...

[enderowl]

Will some of the pokemon get recolored shinys? 

[Rayan]

ya jan love your work god bless you 

 

[manishgautam_yt]

Can we expect v13 to play before 2020 ends 

[\/agrant]

6 minutes ago, manishgautam_yt said:

Can we expect v13 to play before 2020 ends 

according to jan's tumblr it's unlikely, though he said it should be testplayed before the end of 2020, so we can expect it early 2021 i think

[lilskittle]

Hope all is going well with working on v13, can't wait for it :)

[Kenneth]

Will Galarian Slowpoke be released in V13? This is my favorite pokemon from galar (as well as Sirfetc'd and Obstagoon) and i would really love to train one... Spork that already added gen 8 hasn't implemented it yet and also says something like it follows Rejuvenation's development; whatever that means. Are we getting the entire gen 8 roster (minus legends/myths of course), or it is going to be implemented in chunks?

[\/agrant]

25 minutes ago, Kenneth said:

Will Galarian Slowpoke be released in V13? This is my favorite pokemon from galar (as well as Sirfetc'd and Obstagoon) and i would really love to train one... Spork that already added gen 8 hasn't implemented it yet and also says something like it follows Rejuvenation's development; whatever that means. Are we getting the entire gen 8 roster (minus legends/myths of course), or it is going to be implemented in chunks?

maybe it's not my place to answer this but jan said in the ask questions thread that he'd add dlc mons eventually, whether in a v13 patch or in v14

[dragonsbeat]

On 11/11/2020 at 10:52 AM, \/agrant said:

maybe it's not my place to answer this but jan said in the ask questions thread that he'd add dlc mons eventually, whether in a v13 patch or in v14

jan did say that v13.5 will have the isle of armor and crown thundra DLC

[MhicKy]

(I ain't dead, just lurking)

I had this idea for a while but never actually posted here but what if we had a "balanced" setting were every Pokemon encountered, both wild and trained, would always have 31 IVs in all stats?
It's just my opinion but I think IVs are a massive waste of time.. I get the existence of EVs and Nature since they can dictate a Pokemon's build, EVs have a maximum limit in total and for each status which makes proper distribution important and Natures have both a pro and a con so choosing a Nature that would benefit a Pokemon without hindering them is a must but IVs are just dumb since you can get a Pokemon with 31 IVs in everything anyway, there's no limit, there's no pros and cons, you can just get everything perfect anyways it just takes a long a** time..

I just realized that I probably spent half the time I played this game just hatching eggs to get that Pokemon I needed just to clear one gym leader and never use it ever again (*cof cof* Steelix *cof cof*).. I feel like this is a must specially for games like Rejuvenation and Reborn were changing team composition depending on the gym leader is a common thing.

If anyone is up to making a mod like this that would be great too!

Edited December 26, 2020 by MhicKy

[ArcBolt27]

i mean there's a place in GDC  iirc that can do that for you but i can agree that an option would be nice especially for those that dont want to wait that long

[Matt.]

Regarding the mechanism by which players change their difficulty level: currently, players get one free change, and every change after costs a couple shards. After a certain point in the game, the player loses their ability to change their difficulty level (excluding Debug, but you know what I mean). 

 

Is there an overall benefit to this system over giving the player more freedom, or even ultimate freedom, i.e. allowing them to change their difficulty level for free nearly whenever they want (or just when they're in a Pokemon Center)? This is what I want to discuss, and I'm not sure that the answer is yes. 

 

It seems the main arguments for the current system are that we don't want to make things too easy for or spoil the player, we want the player to choose their difficulty level wisely and experience the consequences of their decisions, and by taking the difficulty changing mechanism away after a certain point, we want the player to stick with the difficulty level they chose and challenge them to complete the rest of the game that way. And I completely understand these arguments - I enjoy doing restrictive challenge runs and playing intentionally difficult games, and there definitely is such a thing as giving too much to the player.

 

It may be more helpful to look at the reverse question. Suppose that this whole time, players could change their difficulty level whenever they wanted for free, and this was the norm that everyone was used to. Then suppose that you asked everyone, "Would Rejuvenation be a better game if after your first change, you had to pay for it, and after a certain point you couldn't change your difficulty level anymore?" I suspect most people would say no. Of course, this is natural as obviously people don't like having capabilities taken from them, but isn't the ultimate goal to maximize playerbase enjoyment?

 

The motivation for this is that players quitting the game out of difficulty-related frustration is not ideal. Of course, you can't (and probably even shouldn't) cater to everyone. But would the player be hurt by being given additional freedom in changing their difficulty? I don't think so. If they wanted to challenge themselves, they would just not change their difficulty level. And is a player who never changes their difficulty hurt by other people having more freedom to change their difficulty? Again, I don't think so. 

 

Curious to see what others think about this subject. Regardless, thanks to the devs for all of the hard work - Rejuvenation is a fantastic game and I'm looking forward to V13! 

[MhicKy]

I wouldn't put this in the same category as difficulty since I just wish there was an option to disregard IVs..

Like I said above, I think they are a dumb waste of time.. Like, you could play whichever difficulty you want with or without the "balance setting" (THe name I used it) and I can guarantee you most people would use that setting if it was a thing, no one likes to waste hours to get that perfect IV pokemon just to have a shot at a gym and never use that pokemon ever again.. I had a couple like that, I said as a joke "*cof cof* Steelix *cof cof*" because I just used him ONCE at the FLying Gym and never bothered to use him ever again yet spent hours building him for the single purpose of changing the field in the very first turn, that was all..

Whether Jan decides to do this thing or not is up to him, it's his game and I am not imposing this but I wish someone out there made a mod for this in case he decides to rule against this idea, the only way is to use debug mode which I feel uncomfortable with.. This would also make Nuzlock more viable since the pokemons you catch on each route would already be up for competitive.

Edited December 28, 2020 by MhicKy

[SadMoney]

I wonder how level up movepools will be affected in V13. 

 

Most of the Gen8 movepools are bare bones, and lacking without TMs or RMs whatever you call them