The Unofficial V13 Discussion Thread

[nhehvnukl]

1 hour ago, Illumi said:

Yes we can go there, but for Route 10 does nothing, as it serves as a dock for a ship that sails to Neverwinter City, but we cannot go there yet. Only useful thing about Route 10 is that it allows us to catch a Wingull/Pelliper there I guess

I mean, Pelipper is great for rain teams.

[Crimson_Mc_Black]

Ok, guys here me out, an item that you can give to Silvally, that can hold TWO memories making it to where you can turn Sivally into any dual type you want! Multi attack will work like revelation dance where it uses the first typing currently on the Sivally at the time.

 

I figured it could help Silvally to be more useful

[nhehvnukl]

35 minutes ago, Crimson_Mc_Black said:

Ok, guys here me out, an item that you can give to Silvally, that can hold TWO memories making it to where you can turn Sivally into any dual type you want! Multi attack will work like revelation dance where it uses the first typing currently on the Sivally at the time.

 

I figured it could help Silvally to be more useful

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Multi attack is 120 instead of 90 now so no need tbh

 

[Crimson_Mc_Black]

3 hours ago, nhehvnukl said:

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Multi attack is 120 instead of 90 now so no need tbh

 

 

SWEET ARCEUS OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY. that is a pretty nice boost for Silvaly.....

 

 

stillwantadualtypesivallythoughtbh

 

 

 

Edited November 13, 2019 by Ice Cream Sand Witch
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[Illumi]

I heard that there is a big bunch of moves being removed entirely from gen 8. I wonder if Rejuv will also adapt to this change or will it save everything as it was

Edited November 13, 2019 by Ice Cream Sand Witch
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[ArcaneArceus]

Knowing that one of Rejuvenation’s (and Reborn’s for that matter) big things is that every Pokemon is catchable, I wouldn’t be surprised if the only things Jan changes are adding in Galar Pokemon and new moves.

[nhehvnukl]

7 hours ago, Illumi said:

 

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I heard that there is a big bunch of moves being removed entirely from gen 8. I wonder if Rejuv will also adapt to this change or will it save everything as it was

 

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Hidden power, return/frustration, pursuit and a bunch of signature moves are gone for some reason. Its really dumb. (Just like the whole situation)...

 

[redcellbestcell]

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Hidden power, return/frustration, pursuit and a bunch of signature moves are gone for some reason. Its really dumb. (Just like the whole situation)...

 

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NOT MY FLUFFING RETURN/FRUSTRATION!!! NO!!!!!!!

 

[nhehvnukl]

1 hour ago, redcellbestcell said:

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NOT MY FLUFFING RETURN/FRUSTRATION!!! NO!!!!!!!

 

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RIP normal types

 

[ArcaneArceus]

So, with Sw/Sh now out some of the new mons seem really powerful. Galarian Darmanitan’s free Choice Band and Rillaboom’s free Grassy Terrain seem like they could unbalance the game in its current form. How do you think Jan will handle them and the new movesets?

 

TMs will have to be changed for obvious reasons. Hidden Power, Return, Frustration are all not in Gen 8 despite being almost universal in Rejuv. Some of the new moves could be retconned onto some older Pokemon if it fit thematically and new abilities and items need to be added in as well.

Edited November 18, 2019 by ArcaneArceus

[Autumn Zephyr]

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Rillaboom's gonna stay, no problem. The other Types had top-end starters from the get-go while Grass was left wallowing in the dust (I don't think serperior quite holds up well to the likes of greninja and blaziken), and while the Crests have gone a long way to help out a couple of them, they're also really far in the game. Dealing with the non-starter specimens is as simple as just delaying its accessability to the late game for the people who didn't choose it in Jenner's Lab, no tweaking needed. The bigger problem starter-wise is honestly scorbunny, as it gives Fire access to the fun that used to be Water's domain alongside a signature move that can be best summed up as "Flare Blitz without many of the drawbacks of using Flare Blitz"- and frankly, I don't see that going anywhere either.

 

As for non-start powerhouses, one has to remember that the balance of Rejuvenation (outside of the pokes obtained from Jenner's Lab) comes very heavily from where the pokemon is found. Galarian darmanitan frankly isn't going to be unbalancing anything if they wait to put in the second area that it'd make sense in rather than the first- Neverwinter is going to be far more on par with its power level than the Tower of Theolia would be. What I want to know about this one is actually whether or not they'll let it use the Darmanitan Crest- I find G!Darmanitan's Zen Mode to be a hilarious design, personally, and don't really want to deal with the snowball afro to get to it.

 

There's honestly no need to remove the moves that GameFreak did, I feel- we have our own metagame that's already drastically different from SwSh's, so we don't need to follow their decisions to a T. Just as Mega Evolutions and Z-Moves will hang around, so to will the likes of Return and Hidden Power.

 

 

[kithas]

I also think it will be the easy way, to just add the new mons and regional forms without taking out the others, but wonder if we'll see Return/Frustration, Hidden Power and the others used by Galarian species.

[Crimson_Mc_Black]

I'm kinda wondering where we'll be able to find some of these new pokemon. Like would Nikit be found near Golden Wood, and will the Toxtricity line be found around Gareen City pre Neo?

 

IM so excited to see which pokemon we'll have acess to once the new Version comes out

[VirtualizingProductions]

So I recently got HM Waterfall from the Department Store 8F (as well as TM55 Scald) but this HM is unusable at the moment. I wonder how many more badges I would need to use it. I already got 14 badges as of V12.

[JK’S]

Do u guys think jan will add a chance to get missable zygarde cells (like the ones in gearen city, only accessible before neo gearen?

 

[kithas]

I hope so but I'm not sure since we're already able to catch & register zygarde so for "completion" they're not necessary 

[ArcaneArceus]

I hope that there are some more missable cells. The only problem was that I couldn't get the one by the old Help Center because of a bug, and ended up having to use the debug mod to get it.

[5uperdawg]

On 10/27/2019 at 6:29 AM, Demone said:

This talk about Risa being an impostor reminded me about Cosmia and Comet the people who were impersonating the main character and their mother, its only been what, 4 episodes since they were on screen, think there was mention of Cosmia impersonating arena fighters though, really hoping they make an appearance so there's more info to theorycraft with besides, comet cant shapeshift and that Cosmia knows the identity of madame x.

They are affiliated with Madame X! If you do the quiz mission in Kristiline and you complete it, the dude says that he will tell you Madame X's identity. Before he can tell you, he gets taken BY Cosmia. I think that while Cosmia isn't Madame X, she is vital to the story and will become a problem later.

[ArcaneArceus]

Hmm. This game has so many hints and small foreshadowings. Everything is probably already in the game, we just haven't looked hard enough!

 

So I finally reached the Dreamyard on Route 8, and it appears to be an abandoned factory in a forgotten corner of Aevium. Based on the name, it could be related to the Puppet Master and I'd predict that we might be seeing it soon. Or it could be v14 instead - based on the name of the next volume we might not get a gym leader. The Fairy and Dark badges look like they're related and probably going to be obtained at the same time.

[kithas]

I think we might go to the Dreamyard actually, if it's connected with the Puppet Master, V13 is too.

[Magus543]

So i still think Xenpurgis is some sort of mind control virus, which is an easy way to get the Puppet master involved. Wonder if we will meet Crescent soon?

[ArcaneArceus]

8 hours ago, Magus543 said:

So i still think Xenpurgis is some sort of mind control virus

That does seem likely. Blacksteeple has a little bit of dialogue about how all the people wouldn’t be around much longer. This would imply death, but it could also imply replacement with another personality, or mind control. The name also brings that to mind Walpurgis Night, a central European holiday celebrating Saint Walpurgis, known for battling witchcraft. There’s also a certain anime where a major antagonist is named Walpurgisnacht and is made up of a collection of souls. 

 

8 hours ago, Magus543 said:

Wonder if we will meet Crescent soo

I hope we do next episode.

[Magus543]

On 11/27/2019 at 1:04 AM, ArcaneArceus said:

That does seem likely. Blacksteeple has a little bit of dialogue about how all the people wouldn’t be around much longer. This would imply death, but it could also imply replacement with another personality, or mind control. The name also brings that to mind Walpurgis Night, a central European holiday celebrating Saint Walpurgis, known for battling witchcraft. There’s also a certain anime where a major antagonist is named Walpurgisnacht and is made up of a collection of souls. 

 

I hope we do next episode.

As i recall, Neved mentioned something about an energy that is released when humans die? So far, the logic of Team Xen's plan is never explained.

[Autumn Zephyr]

18 minutes ago, Magus543 said:

As i recall, Neved mentioned something about an energy that is released when humans die? So far, the logic of Team Xen's plan is never explained.

It's not too unreasonable an idea, for what that's worth. We know pokemons' lifeforce can be harnessed thanks to both OrAs' Project Azoth and the Garufa's tendency to sacrifice them as part of their powerful rituals, and we aren't really all that different from them if we're to take Sinnoh's mythos at face value (which would be reasonable, considering how much of it we've seen in action directly).

 

Similarly, we also know that negative emotions, the other thing Team Xen was trying to gather at Blacksteeple IIRC, can have an impact the energy of the world thanks to both Gates To Infinity and Super Mystery Dungeon, the latter of which is a known inspiration and resource for Rejuvenation.

 

So as far as I'm concerned, the question is less "how?" and more "why?".

[Magus543]

8 minutes ago, Autumn Zephyr said:

It's not too unreasonable an idea, for what that's worth. We know pokemons' lifeforce can be harnessed thanks to both OrAs' Project Azoth and the Garufa's tendency to sacrifice them as part of their powerful rituals, and we aren't really all that different from them if we're to take Sinnoh's mythos at face value (which would be reasonable, considering how much of it we've seen in action directly).

 

Similarly, we also know that negative emotions, the other thing Team Xen was trying to gather at Blacksteeple IIRC, can have an impact the energy of the world thanks to both Gates To Infinity and Super Mystery Dungeon, the latter of which is a known inspiration and resource for Rejuvenation.

 

So as far as I'm concerned, the question is less "how?" and more "why?".

Well, the most obvious would be world domination of some kind, possibly spanning dimensions. After all, Madame X does have a time diamond. With how Madame X treats her grunts, and how she goes on about cooperation, i would assume her lofty goal would also profit Team Xen as a whole. Personally, i think she wants control of Melia's light to become God and remake the universe in her image, very Cyrus with all the Sinnoh motifs going around.