The Unofficial V13 Discussion Thread

[kithas]

39 minutes ago, Magus543 said:

As i recall, Neved mentioned something about an energy that is released when humans die? So far, the logic of Team Xen's plan is never explained.

I'm pretty sure this bit has to do with Yvetal harvesting power from death. Maybe they want to oppose the new Storm-9 but, as every Well Intentioned Extremist out there the "only" way they knew how was with death.

[ArcaneArceus]

When did the old Storm-9 occur?

 

It can’t be too long before the main story as

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Nastasia and Cella

were both born pre-Calamity, along with one side character in Sashila. However, both the side character and

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Nastasia

don’t appear to be very old, unless Jan has said otherwise. But then there’s WLL dialogue and events putting the Calamity at least 25 years before the main story, probably more.

 

I’d like to place it at roughly 50 years before the main story, but that still doesn’t match perfectly with 

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Nastasia, Cella, or the Sashila man’s

ages in the “now” Aevium. Unless Storm-9 is some weird time distorting event or Spacea/Tiempa are involved somehow.

[kithas]

I think with the flashbacks, Where Love Lives timeline (which happens at most a year after) and Keta & Aelita's ages it was like 30 something years (iirc there's a 15 year gap between Keta's arriving and Taelia & Nora's fates and by then Aelita's around 8 years old) 

[enderowl]

I wonder if we are going to get new screenshots for the next version this week or next week.

[Rising Emperor]

Hopefully, It always exciting when Jan or Zumi load up something to keep the hype-train going.

[ArcaneArceus]

As much as I hope that happens, I doubt that we're getting much soon. Based on the status thread's changes it seems that most of the development has been on the Reservoir, with a little bit of side questing. If anything, I think that it would just be a sort of teaser type thing

 

[enderowl]

On 12/1/2019 at 7:09 PM, enderowl said:

I wonder if we are going to get new screenshots for the next version this week or next week.

How the heck did I almost get this right?  Also, it seems like we are going to be able to play as Venam in this chapter for a little bit.

[ArcaneArceus]

Alright, so:

1. I take back what I said about no/little update.

and

2. Analysis Time!

So, in the first picture, we have what appears to be an old-fashioned/steampunk type museum. I see a Bastiodon? head on the wall, a teleporter, and a large amount of books and gears. The second picture has a big locked door, Armaldo skeleton, and more gears. Ther is alos a strange, possibly Pokemon related trio of objects towards the right. Based on that, I'd guess that this is possibly related to Saki with the heavy steampunk aesthetic, thought it could also be Past Aevium or the Puppet Master's true housing.

 

The third picture is perhaps the most enigmatic for me. We are standing on clifftop platform with bricks and tile that at first glance look similar to GDC. Upon close inspection, however the brick color doesn't quite match, and the tile is unlike any I could find. We also see black and red/pink banners, along with possibly traditional Japanese inspired lamps. The whole area seems almost like the entrance to some sort of shrine. Obviously, the three pictures all take place in the same general area, however, I think that the "shrine entrance" could be in a sort of courtyard within the museum portion.

 

The big question I have is where? Where does all of this fit into Aevium? Is this in Past Aevium, near GDC, Neverwinter, possibly Route 8 and the Dreamyard, or (probably the obvious answer) in some alternate dimension/Rift/etc.

[kithas]

17 hours ago, enderowl said:

How the heck did I almost get this right?  Also, it seems like we are going to be able to play as Venam in this chapter for a little bit.

I think the red haired sprite is supposed to be the MC placeholder so maybe with Venam but I'm no so sure we will play as her.

[Rogue822]

After playing up to the end of the current release and enjoying way more than i have enjoyed any other pokemon game before, this wait is going to be so painful. I'm playing through reborn since i haven't played through it yet and it just doesn't feel the same so i'm considering replaying rejuvenation again while i wait.

[TheVentusX]

19 hours ago, ArcaneArceus said:

 

The third picture is perhaps the most enigmatic for me. We are standing on clifftop platform with bricks and tile that at first glance look similar to GDC. Upon close inspection, however the brick color doesn't quite match, and the tile is unlike any I could find. We also see black and red/pink banners, along with possibly traditional Japanese inspired lamps. The whole area seems almost like the entrance to some sort of shrine. Obviously, the three pictures all take place in the same general area, however, I think that the "shrine entrance" could be in a sort of courtyard within the museum portion.

 

The big question I have is where? Where does all of this fit into Aevium? Is this in Past Aevium, near GDC, Neverwinter, possibly Route 8 and the Dreamyard, or (probably the obvious answer) in some alternate dimension/Rift/etc.

The new pictures could also hint, that we will find another castle of the 7(?) ancient kingdoms from the lore (If I remember correctly, we already saw 3 of them). Either in the past as it seems rather well preserved (but the elevator in the first picture and the tubes/cables in the second picture don´t seem to support this) in the present and someone repaired or redesigned it. That would also connect with your "shrine entrance" theory. I´m really hyped for the next version O.o

 

[redcellbestcell]

at the 1st 2 pics, i thought that we can go and enter the GDC school thingy (not sure if it's a trainer school). But the 3rd pic look pretty weird for a bridge so this must be some kind of revamped castle or some shit

[Magus543]

Who else had a big fancy castle in the lore? i get the feeling this is a sidequest thing and not a Main story thing. For one it doesn't look like a funhouse nor GDC.

[ArcaneArceus]

No one that we’ve known, but we’ve visited three. Goldenwood, Goomidra, and the crumbling one, Zygara? in the Labyrinth near Sashila. There were 7 kingdoms though, and should probably be 7 castles when rejuv is done. I do agree with the side quest part, if it is a castle, it will almost certainly be a sidequest, just based on the other three.

[Thund3rStrm]

Do you think it's possible to beat madame x at blacksteeple if you sturdy destiny bond or something similar? Same with madelis in jenners lab when you use togepi (for example a spore metronome)

[nhehvnukl]

19 minutes ago, Thund3rStrm said:

Do you think it's possible to beat madame x at blacksteeple if you sturdy destiny bond or something similar? Same with madelis in jenners lab when you use togepi (for example a spore metronome)

For Madame X, just use quick guard. Instant win. For Madelis, lower difficulty ro casual and prey.

[ArcaneArceus]

I second the quick guard for Madame X, though it doesn’t really change anything, just a little bit of dialogue. For Madelis, I got the Chinese food from the sewers and used Yawn/Ancient Power, though you’ll need one or two stat boosts from the Ancient Power. It’s definitely a luck based match.

[nhehvnukl]

2 minutes ago, ArcaneArceus said:

I second the quick guard for Madame X, though it doesn’t really change anything, just a little bit of dialogue. For Madelis, I got the Chinese food from the sewers and used Yawn/Ancient Power, though you’ll need one or two stat boosts from the Ancient Power. It’s definitely a luck based match.

I mean, It gives karma and makes Madame X use a lazer that she "was hoping to save for another time", so it will affect something eventually.

[Crimson_Mc_Black]

1 hour ago, ArcaneArceus said:

No one that we’ve known, but we’ve visited three. Goldenwood, Goomidra, and the crumbling one, Zygara? in the Labyrinth near Sashila. There were 7 kingdoms though, and should probably be 7 castles when rejuv is done. I do agree with the side quest part, if it is a castle, it will almost certainly be a sidequest, just based on the other three.

What about Blacksteeple? Wasn't that one of the castles or was it just built fro team Xen

[kithas]

We already know the Castles used by Griselda (Goldenwood), Ieisel (Zygara, Sashila) and Kasumi (Goomidra) and we also have the Blacksteeple one, except iirc there is another castle just next to the one we know, with Neved and his men trying to enter it with no avail. 

[nhehvnukl]

3 hours ago, Crimson_Mc_Black said:

What about Blacksteeple? Wasn't that one of the castles or was it just built fro team Xen

It might be one of the castles. We dont know.

[ArcaneArceus]

Blacksteeple could be. Two of the kingdoms had names similar to Yveltal and Xerneas, Blacksteeple could be the Yveltal one, and that second castle could be where Xerneas is found.

[enderowl]

I've been meaning to make a couple of theory for a while.  After finishing up the current version and some of the side-quests in the game, I think I got most of the information that I needed for these theories.  Also this contains spoilers for the entire game, even though I would expect most if not everyone that goes onto this thread have finish up the most current version and all of the side quests.

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1. The Protagonist

This is the one theory that I kept on thing about.  Who exactly is the protagonist in Rejuvenation besides being "The Interceptor".  They are kind of like an enigma with a few hints to their past.  We know what their canons names are for each of the character profiles we get to pick at the beginning of the game (Aevis, Aevia, Axel, Ariana, Alain, Aero, and Ana if you put in the secret password), how they are connected to the Vacation House that is near the Rejevenation Co. Building which is now the HQ of Team Xen, how they are called "The Interceptor", and that a entity named Adrest resides in them (Forgot the name of said entity that Nymeria knows them by) and Adrest's connection to the Spring of Rejuvenation.  That is all we know about the main characters.  The theory that I've up with is that the protagonist is a human vessel for the Adrest.  I'm just basing this from the one scene for when we enter the Spring of Rejuvenation for the first time.  After Nastasia not knowing what to do next, our character has another memory, but it was of Adrest that resides in them.  After the memory was done, it seems like the protagonist was taken over by Adrest for a bit hence why Ren said that wasn't his normal voice and the green text that appeared for the dialogue.  And, during the scene for when the player character went out to go and try to save Kanon from the Time Traveler on the Flying Surfboard, Nymeria seems to know who Adrest is and it seems like the protag knows what she is talking about.  But during that scene I found it odd that the character would walk away from her when she mentions it.  Either the protag knows that Adrest is in them or that Adrest took over for a bit to just walk way from Nymeria.  Overall, I think that the protagonist is a vessel for Adrest, but they have their own memories about their past and the memories of the Adrest's past.

 

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2. The Seven Kingdoms

This is going to be a short theory.  So, yeah, the Seven Kingdoms are even more of an enigma than the protag hence why I said this is going to be a short theory.  I am just going to say that this theory is just on who the Rulers are for these kingdom since we already know six out of the seven of Kingdom Rulers and who I think is the seventh ruler.  So, the rulers that we already know of are Spacia, Tempia, Gresilda, Kusura, the guy who got turn into a Cofagrigus (Forgot his name), and Nymeria.  I believe the final ruler would be Indraid/Vitus/Sirius only on just one fact that Nymeria knows who he is. But, yeah, that is it. Don't have anything else for this theory.

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3. What I expect in version 13.

This is just mostly a fun theory for what I think is going to be in version 13.  First off it is going to be revolving around the Puppetmaster and Saki, but I also think that the chapter would have more information on the protagonist's past.  I also think that the Puppetmaster would also give off more information on Team Xen's motives.  That is all I think will be in Version 13 even though it is just two things.

 

So, those are the theories that I came up with.  I don't expect any of these theoriest to be true and I just made them for fun.  Hope you guys like these theories.

Edited December 9, 2019 by enderowl

[Paperblade]

The entity's name is Adrest, which is like 99% a mythological reference

[enderowl]

1 hour ago, Paperblade said:

The entity's name is Adrest, which is like 99% a mythological reference

Thank you, I'll change it the theory bit just to make it so the name is there.