Pokemon Reborn E18-2 Speedrun in 5 hours, 15 minutes and 57 seconds!

[Arkadius]

Hello everyone,

 

I have once again finally completed a new segmented speedrun of Pokemon Reborn . My final time was 5 hours, 15 minutes and 57 seconds, saving 1 hour, 10 minutes and 48 seconds of my previous run.

     

 

Youtube Playlist:

 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV1soDJJkbF_BmqtoxAI_jLuK3LHryZ9r

 

 

A lot of this timesave was possible because of the better routing, strats, gameplay, decision making, movement and execution. A huge shoutout to Bloo123 and Dondon151 for coming up with a lot of the improvements and ideas/inspiration. Bloo and I have worked together a LOT (thanks Discord).

 

A very important aspect of this run is that it is done on E18 version/patch 2. This update had a bunch of changes but the update to the AI is the most important one for the Speedrun. The AI seems to prefer status moves when on full HP. In ways, the AI is more predictable. There are less random switches. Another big part of the update is the HP bars going down quicker. This adds up significantly over the course of the run. There is also the option to forfeit trainer battles. This allows for some very interesting strats, like forfeiting against a Team Meteor grunt after the Radomus fight. This allows us to warp all the way back to the Grand Hall (where we last healed our Pokemon) and skips the maze section after El kidnaps Luna. There is another, very minor but very funny, use. After defeating Hardy you can forfeit against the final trainer in his gym, fly back to Agate and bike back to the gym and then exit the gym immediately. This ends episode 18 and saves about 3 seconds over fighting the trainer (yes, I did this in my run lol).

 

Some of the most significant timesave and changes are:

-          We use rare candy Meowstic to level 50 before Serra, teaching Misty terrain and allowing us to change many fights in our favour with Prankster Misty Terrain. Serra, Samson, Charlotte, Titania and Hardy come to mind in this regard.

-          We capture a Natu in the Rhodochrine Jungle after we collect Corey’s Nidorina in the Beryl Cave. We conveniently use the great ball hidden on a rock in Beryl cave and fake out with Meowstic to capture Natu which has teleport. We use teleport throughout the run. It’s most notable timesave is Route 2 for sure. We pass route 2 a bunch of times. My favourite is going all the way up Ametrime Mountain and then teleporting all the way back to Fiore Mansion.

-          Collecting the WIDE LENS for Blaziken (99% accurate High Jump Kick is godlike)

-          A guaranteed EXP route all the way to Shelly.

-          No longer capturing Poochyena/Mightyena but instead collecting the Kricketot in the Peridot Ward and then using Kricketune and Torchic/Combusken during the Julia split. Kricketune solo’s Julia and is helpful later run.

-          Collecting Onix with Sturdy and Stealth Rock. This helps with a bunch of annoying early game fight and makes Corey a whole lot easier.

-          Previously we used to make it so that Saphira would be kidnapped during the Tanzan mountain section. Saphira would break out of Team Meteor’s prison on her own and defeating 2 Team Meteor guards on her way out. We now realise that this path causes several other fights later on in the game (in particular during Route 3, Ametrine Mountain and Agate City). We now let Charlotte and Shelly be kidnapped and deal with the double battle in Tanzan mountain.

 

Improvements?

Obviously better RNG saves time. In these segments of mine there is a bunch of timesave in the early game. I was not yet used to all the changes we made to the route and made some mistakes because of it. From Julia to Team Complete, I estimate there is about 10 minutes of timesave possible with good to very good segments. For the later splits I challenged myself and reset segments more to get really good segments. Amaria in particular is a very nice segment with only minor (movement) errors.

 

Blooe123 has already been rerouting a bunch of the game. For example, Kricketune is now obsolete. We go in with Torchic/Combusken and Espurr. Something I need to get used to is playing on set mode. I believe we can play on set mode from after Noel all the way to the end of the game. This saves a significant amount of time (playing on set mode prevents  ‘Amaria is about to send out Swampert, will you switch your pokomon?’ textboxes). I’m sure there is a lot more to discover.

 

In conclusion:

This run is extremely fun to do. I highly recommend everyone who enjoys Reborn to give it a shot and see what you can do. The route utilizes a fun team: Blaziken and Sharpedo as physical sweepers, Nidoqueen and Ampharos as special sweepers and Meowstic for support. Sharpedo in addition has Destiny Bond.

 

You can find my notes here:

https://mega.nz/file/sQphVJ5L#ZNkfL2hvSTsmQ8ZWjalCf_bARIZ-U5aj_ND_z-ghyIE

 

 

-Arkadius

 

 

 

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[Arkadius]

Here are the Splits and Segment Times:

 

Split	Time	Segment Time
Julia: split time:	0:18:30	0:18:30
Florinia: split time:	0:36:21	0:17:51
Corey split time:	0:50:31	0:14:10
Shelly split time:	1:10:25	0:19:54
Team Complete split time:	1:20:45	0:10:20
Shade split time:	1:33:52	0:13:07
Kiki split time:	1:50:22	0:16:30
Aya split time:	2:05:45	0:15:23
Sirius Split time:	2:21:13	0:15:28
Serra Split time:	2:29:50	0:08:37
Noel Split time:	2:45:50	0:16:00
Radomus Split time:	2:58:13	0:12:23
Luna Split time:	3:12:43	0:14:30
Samson Split time:	3:21:11	0:08:28
Charlotte Split time:	3:35:49	0:14:38
Blake Split time:	3:46:32	0:10:43
Terra Split time:	3:50:43	0:04:11
Taka Split time:	4:02:13	0:11:30
Ciel Split time:	4:13:26	0:11:13
Adrienn Split time:	4:32:09	0:18:43
Titania Split time:	4:41:03	0:08:54
Amaria Split time:	4:44:36	0:03:33
Calcenon City Split time:	5:05:36	0:21:00
Hardy and E18 Complete Split time:	5:15:57	0:10:21

 

 

The logic behind the Segments is in principle from gym leader to gym leader, but there were certain parts of the run that were heavily RNG based or simply had very difficult fights in them that I decided to split those segments up into 2. The 'Team Complete' segment is a new segment in which we collect Sharpedo, Nidorina and Natu. Since Sharpedo and Nidorina both need good stats it's a split that's quite RNG heavy.   

[bloo123]

also wanted to share my updated notes that incorporates no kricketune amongst other tweaks. having no kricketune saves on average 10 minutes for the early game, though it does make florinia split a bit more scary not having it. this also means that torchic gets a lot more extra useless evs which means that we buy ev reducing berries to compensate for that. in particular the shelly fight is much shorter since we approach that fight completely differently by teaching blaziken fire pledge and setting her forest on fire instead of having to stall out her rain. no kricketune also means combusken gets more experience for the early game saving us having to use a rare candy on it, which saves money on having to buy an extra one and time by picking up less things to sell and fighting less optionals. aside from that we do some other strats to make a couple fights faster but there's too much to mention. major congrats on the new pb though, here's hoping for a sub 5

 

 

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[Arkadius]

Youtube Playlist:

 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV1soDJJkbF_BmqtoxAI_jLuK3LHryZ9r

 

 

[WildRoad]

Nice work, hope that the next route get even better time!

[GuillerXD]

Good to see reborn speddruns, nice job man

[Xtrack]

Just finished watching the whole thing very impressive run to say the least. I knew Blaziken was amazing in Reborn but man the amount of fights you swept with him was just crazy.