Saddest Characters of the Story

[Lorane]

(CAUTION: Sensitive topics might be discussed)

As you probably would have not guessed by the title, this post is for opinions on whose story is the saddest among all Reborn characters. I know everybody's story has a LOT of sadness dissolved, but I feel like some characters, from the protagonist's point of view, had it way worse. I would like to apologise if something of this sort already exists, and I'll take this down as soon as possible. I just wanted to know your opinions on this. (sorry for not being consistent with addressing throughout the post)

Let's start.

I'll start with my profile pic.

I feel like in the game, Taka had the saddest story overall. from childhood he felt like he never got any love, he was always told to man up, always told to bear it. His father was unable to express any love towards him in any manner(even tho he loved his son dearly). He feels comfort only from his Chatot, and later on the protagonist. To be very honest, if Taka is finished for good, I am happy to have refused to fight him in WTC, otherwise he woudn't have felt the little bit of happiness left before his demise. On the other hand, I should have probably fought him that today so that we would have been able to catch a glimpse of him But then again, when we would have seen him next time, I am very sure he would have been consumed by his own grief and would have decided to take a rash step.

To be cut short when you're living your best and have someone to rely on is a feeling that many people can relate to, and I cried when I saw Taka in that guard's armour. This was really a cruel mockery of the life he had lived, and according to me the armor made it even worse. The armor represented the false sense of protection and happiness he had throughout his life, and his dead body represented the fact that he finally, in death, has a safe place to be and to go to.

so that's that, and what are your opinions on this? I would love to see them!

until then, bye~

 

Edited July 23, 2020 by Lorane2234
( i removed something because it seemed a bit insensitive...

[Edo]

To me it's Charlotte. She is always acting tough, but it's obvious how much she is hurting inside.
She lost her parents as a kid and believed all this time that she is the one responsible for their deaths, which is already a huge emotional shock. But due to their parents' death, she and her sisters had to live in the orphanage, where the kids weren't shown any love by the adults, but instead tortured to make them behave, which probably just made her feel even more guilt. The only way she saw to protect herself from getting crushed by this enormous guilt was to feel apathetic towards the whole situation.
And even if it's obvious that in the present the three of them love each other, the thought that her sisters actually resented her might have occurred to her at some point in the past. "Because it's her fault that they have to live in the orphanage. Because she took their parents and their happiness from them."

[Lorane]

8 hours ago, Edo said:

To me it's Charlotte. She is always acting tough, but it's obvious how much she is hurting inside.
She lost her parents as a kid and believed all this time that she is the one responsible for their deaths, which is already a huge emotional shock. But due to their parents' death, she and her sisters had to live in the orphanage, where the kids weren't shown any love by the adults, but instead tortured to make them behave, which probably just made her feel even more guilt. The only way she saw to protect herself from getting crushed by this enormous guilt was to feel apathetic towards the whole situation.
And even if it's obvious that in the present the three of them love each other, the thought that her sisters actually resented her might have occurred to her at some point in the past. "Because it's her fault that they have to live in the orphanage. Because she took their parents and their happiness from them."

Wow, I never thought of it that way...This is so accurate. Charlotte keeps hiding her emotions from everybody, and then she, later on in the story, becomes one of the those characters who can't handle their guilt and sadness and burden anymore and just lets it all out in an emotional, dramatic speech battle.

As for Saphira, I personally think she's hiding a secret. She seems to be so strong and mighty outside, but something tells me her inside is not as strong.

I think Laura might have the most positive development overall. Seeing as she is currently potrayed as weak, she might gain strenght to support her sisters during their downfall. Or, she also spirals to the lowest emotional level, thinking that she is the burden....

[Evi Crystal]

In my case it's Heather and her father Corey overall:

Corey was just a normal person like you and me and bought the Ruby Ring to propose to his wife, Elena. But when Heather was born, Elena's life was cruelly taken away just because of the ring. This was a final blow to Corey, who would raise Heather in his ways and become the cynical person, whe met and joined Team Meteor to take it back. The two different routes involving the police officers is depending how tragic it is:

1. In the Police Found Route, he gets exposed in front if his OWN daughter (which mentally broke her down and runs away) and he despises us for taking his only happiness away and wanted to kill us (since we found all the missing officers).

2. In the Police Farce Round, you never find out that he's an agent and not exposed in front of his daughter. Will this lessen a bit the damage for Heather and cannot clearly see that (especially in your first time).

But think about the cause behind: Her mother died because Team Meteor wanted the Ruby Ring, Corey gave her as a proposal gift and growing up without a mother is the most terrible thing, that can happen to a child. This of course took a huge impact at Corey, who changed drastically and became very vengeful towards his wife's murderer and joined them for that. Despite having genuine and good intentions, he clearly had to seek help for the issues than commiting suicide.

And Heather? She was raised by a nihilistic father without a mother, who has the mindset "The world is cruel and reality is harsh", forbidden her to do things and sent her rules without explaining her the reasons for. As a result, she became very rebellious and refused to listen to others. I think the whole 'hero child' act is simply a way to cope herself with problems and her pain, to give herself some meaning perhaps. But the real misadventures started after Corey's death: We, Cain and Shelly tried to resure her safety, but she ran off and caught taken by Dr. Sigmund and given an electroshock therapy, making her mute. After the events of Yureyu, she ran off again because she felt ashamed for the trouble she caused. Hadn't she ran off from her problems and being honest, than none of this would've happened.

 

Even if she came to releasing this during the Ametrine Arc, when being locked by Blake, Heather symbolises helplessness and loneliness because having no good parental guidance will cause further problems later on and you'll have some real trouble because you're actually helpless against this all alone.

 

Spoiler

If you didn't find all the officers, there's some crucial points at this conversation from the game:

 

Heather: "Make me! You can't! I'm done listening to you and your stupid rules! I'm sick of you saying I can't do anything ever! So I'm just done. Bye."

Corey: "You are being completely irresponsible. You can't just fly away and hope all of your problems will be solved."

 

Some good foreshadowing about Heather's misadventures.

As for Corey, his wife's death did tore him apart, that his mind was filled with revenge for that. And this influenced his guidance for Heather a lot. And it didn't end very well for him, regardless in both routes. Had Elena (Heather's mother/Corey's wife) survived, than most of the Molinar drama wouldn't existed.

[Athrun]

I know i'am a little ( lot ) late on this topic but someone here thinks that maybe Lin could have one of the saddest story of the game ? I mean why did she turned like this , we have some clue with the story that Laura told us and with the reaction of Sigmund so maybe there is something very sad behind her behavior ?

[Evi Crystal]

58 minutes ago, Athrun said:

I know i'am a little ( lot ) late on this topic but someone here thinks that maybe Lin could have one of the saddest story of the game ? I mean why did she turned like this , we have some clue with the story that Laura told us and with the reaction of Sigmund so maybe there is something very sad behind her behavior ?

Pfft... Sorry, but Lin from all the people? Nah, I don't think so, giving her actions and if it's possible...

 

Spoiler

If this Lin was really that girl from the orphanage and Sigmund did "killed" or kicked out and she landed in the underground shrine... And simple went mad and Baby Arceus messed her up... Well kinda, maybe she could get the proper help before the ordeal. Then it would be kinda sad...

 

The only saddest thing about Sigmund is his sister's suicide and he practices ECT, just to save other lives, but... He does that poorly and wrong. 

Spoiler

Just as Ame has pointed out about this situation, if you are confused

 

 

[Egzample]

This analysis on Taka reminded me of Titania and the choice in the WTC. When we choose to fight him and take idealistic path, Titania follows the same and when we refuse, the truth is revealed both about Taka's feeling on his purpose and Titania's feeling for Amaria. Now I think it should be reversed: when we refuse to fight and Taka gets killed by Titania in the true path, she sees the outcome and decides it is not always worth it, so she stays with Amaria for the sake of not making the same mistake again. And in the other path, when we fight Taka and follow the ideals, Titania grows sick of it and decides to reveal her true feelings to Amaria. Besides, Titania's entanglement is also noteworthy in this topic, no matter the choice..

 

(Kinda necroposting we are doing here, but given the current level of activity on the forum, I dont mind)

[Sienna]

(Mind you, I haven't played through the entire game yet since I'm stuck at Glasswork, just as a heads up)

In my opinion, I deeply related to Titania's story. As someone who is also been in an unhealthy relationship, I could understand her struggles a lot. It made me regret picking the Zekrom path seeing as she's being tied down by Amaria's inability to accept the truth. This part of the game was my favorite for being a realistic depiction of a toxic relationship. While I empathize with Amaria, she's clearly not suited for this kind of relationship without going through some treatment first. Untreated depression really messes with ones head, sadly..

So I guess those two would be my pick? It's very interesting various peoples interpertation of this question.

[Evi Crystal]

47 minutes ago, Sienna said:

(Mind you, I haven't played through the entire game yet since I'm stuck at Glasswork, just as a heads up)

In my opinion, I deeply related to Titania's story. As someone who is also been in an unhealthy relationship, I could understand her struggles a lot. It made me regret picking the Zekrom path seeing as she's being tied down by Amaria's inability to accept the truth. This part of the game was my favorite for being a realistic depiction of a toxic relationship. While I empathize with Amaria, she's clearly not suited for this kind of relationship without going through some treatment first. Untreated depression really messes with ones head, sadly..

So I guess those two would be my pick? It's very interesting various peoples interpertation of this question.

 

From one side, I can understand and emphasise Amaria's issue (regardless of what route, since she reminds of my struggles and trust me, depression is no fun and a serious issue. 

 

For Titania it is very mixed, since mortally I don't like her that much and a few of her actions, but love her personality... But like Sienna referred, Titania suffers clearly under Amaria's clingy obsession, which made the latter a yandere and became insane in Reshiram Doute. Though I'm glad, that Titania she left her and is happy (what a great happy end for said decision), it is still bittersweet for Amaria. In Zekrom Route it is the way around.

 

[Pragorius]

This is a very interesting thread.

First I'd like to highlight the amazing work of the authors of the story of the game, especially the character design part. Here we are playing a fan-made pokemon game, yet discussing the relative sadness of childhood tragedies.

Secondly, I would like to bring some attention on two cases who, in my opinion, are at least as sad as Taka & Charlotte (who I agree are very solid candidates for the saddest character of the story) : Luna, and Terra.

Luna is the daughter of Elias, which is in itself a strong cause of sadness, given the mental state of the man. She was raised in the same purpose as Taka, as he tells us in the Desert, and if El may not have been as rough as Solaris, I doubt he gave Luna much love. In fact, Luna's personnality and choice of life (constantly running away from anything or anyone that could threaten her freedom) are good ways to understand how sad she is.

Besides being the Dark-type Gym Leader (I mean, not very subtle), she likes to live in the dark, alone, she likes fairy tales and fictions (she's often role-playing and her Pokemon are named after "Alice in wonderland" characters or creatures), and she likes dramatic speeches with ancient and literary vocabulary.

And

Spoiler

she enters the void to save us from seeing our future and potentially perishing too. Doing so, she sacrifices herself without caring for a second about her own happiness. I think she knows that even though several characters did care for her (namely  Bennett, Serra and Radomus), they wont miss her deeply. Which is very, very sad in my opinion.

To conclude, Luna is a very charismatic yet dark character, who seem to wander through the game without any strings or purpose, seeking nothing but peace.

 

Regarding Terra, it's simpler. She developped a completely crazy personnality (even breaking the 4th wall and laws of physics) to cover up her sadness. She has no friends, no goal. Her parents, though alive, are passive people just witnessing the life of their daughter without seeming to really care. The only person that mattered to her is Lin, who potentially manipulated Terra into joining Team Meteor.

And she had an awful end if you ask me. Getting locked into a virtual world doesnt seem very fun.

Spoiler

Honorable mention to Noel, because being the brother of the semi-goddess that is Anna cant be good for self-esteem (just talk to him after the battle of Agate). Plus their childhood is also super tragic.

Edit : here is what he says if you talk to him in calcenon city after the story events quote (he is hiding in a corner, witnessing his sister getting all the attention from Radomus) : "You'd think one would be less alone after finding their father, not more. I guess that's not how it works".

 

Edited March 4, 2021 by Pragorius

[Egzample]

2 hours ago, Pragorius said:

Honorable mention to Noel

Noel! Look, the boy is always left aside, even now he is mentioned somewhere deep into the page, he doesn't feel loved or relevant at all, and he is the only one that isn't doing that to himself - Amaria, Titania, Charlotte, Taka, Corey, everyone above - they are fighting their own demons, while this boy if left out by the others. This is the problem. Wonder if this envy will push him to something, like turning to Team Meteor or so.

2 hours ago, Pragorius said:

Luna is a very charismatic yet dark character, who seem to wander through the game without any strings or purpose, seeking nothing but peace.

Luna is mysterious and living in her own world, the darkness isn't cold and lonely to her, it is comforting, soothing, and indeed peaceful. I dont think she's sad, she seems to be okay the way she is. And Im certain she will have more screen time and a significant role by the end of the day, or at last the significance of her actions will be revealed.

 

2 hours ago, Pragorius said:

The only person that mattered to her is Lin, who potentially manipulated Terra into joining Team Meteor.

I dont think she was manipulated, though her parents say she changed when she met Lin (?citation needed). More likely, she was the nerdy, solo type, and with Lin they are using each other.

[Evi Crystal]

1 hour ago, Egzample said:

Noel! Look, the boy is always left aside, even now he is mentioned somewhere deep into the page, he doesn't feel loved or relevant at all, and he is the only one that isn't doing that to himself - Amaria, Titania, Charlotte, Taka, Corey, everyone above - they are fighting their own demons, while this boy if left out by the others. This is the problem. Wonder if this envy will push him to something, like turning to Team Meteor or so.

Well turning to Team Meteor, I highly doubt it, but him snapping at Anna, when it will become to much? There's a possibility, in my opinion. Remember, that Noel is suffering from Asperger's Syndrome and has problems with expressing his feelings. And given the Doctor... Had he been born in a different family, that he would be very loved. That's a sad case, despite the twins got reunited with their real father. Poor kid.

 

 

Luna's story also hit hard, if I think about it. There has to be abuse involved with it, that she really ran off. And given the childhood abuse, it caused many mental scars and she became delusional to the point, she finds comfort in bizarre things. I love Luna as a character. And it broke my heart seeing to release her tragedy. 

 

 

Well I mostly tend to look at the most obvious sadness with both Molinar and Belrose families, because they would be happy if it weren't... for one... son of a seviper... Grrrrr....Just think about him, makes me very... angryyyy....