Veterans Zumi Posted July 27, 2021 Veterans Share Posted July 27, 2021 Idk where y'all are getting the "Exposing Flora reduces karma instantly" thing comes from, because literally the only thing that will count towards getting the bad ending is when you Spoiler exposed Flora and tried to tell Cassandra, resulting in Florin getting framed by Flora and ends up having him executed. I've double checked-- nothing in the events where you can choose to expose Flora's secret both inside the caves and just outside of them (in Honec woods) shows that karma gets reduced by picking any other choices. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zavernis Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 hours ago, S7rife said: In the "negative future", right? What I have to choose? In my previous character, I choose Try to Escape, so what I have to do to "do the right choice?" You have to wait for the timer to run out. 22 minutes ago, Zumi said: Idk where y'all are getting the "Exposing Flora reduces karma instantly" thing comes from, because literally the only thing that will count towards getting the bad ending is when you Reveal hidden contents exposed Flora and tried to tell Cassandra, resulting in Florin getting framed by Flora and ends up having him executed. I've double checked-- nothing in the events where you can choose to expose Flora's secret both inside the caves and just outside of them (in Honec woods) shows that karma gets reduced by picking any other choices. Well then I guess I'm glad that most of the routes are inconsequential, except for Cassandra's choice. Maybe people mixed up exposing Flora with telling Cassandra everything, idk. On 7/21/2021 at 8:53 AM, LeoYT said: There are a few major events that add towards a bad ending: Hide contents Not saving garbodor gives 10 Not saving Gloria (the hippo) gives 10 not saving Amber at valor mountain is 10 Handing the diamond over in the destroyed future arc is 10 while trying to escape is 5 Exposing Florina immediately gives 20 Killing Karen during her sidequest gives 10 while killing Karrina gives 20 Spoiler It's possible not to save Gloria? That surprises me, Gloria always lives in my v12 runs when the Mega Audino blasts it. Although I do try to show Ren the weird book beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoYT Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Zumi said: Idk where y'all are getting the "Exposing Flora reduces karma instantly" thing comes from, because literally the only thing that will count towards getting the bad ending is when you Reveal hidden contents exposed Flora and tried to tell Cassandra, resulting in Florin getting framed by Flora and ends up having him executed. I've double checked-- nothing in the events where you can choose to expose Flora's secret both inside the caves and just outside of them (in Honec woods) shows that karma gets reduced by picking any other choices. Thanks for clearing that one up, that was the only condition I didn't understand fully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzagod13 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, S7rife said: In the "negative future", right? What I have to choose? In my previous character, I choose Try to Escape, so what I have to do to "do the right choice?" In the old version the correct choice was to "do nothing" Edit: Also I was planning on going for a "bad ending". Can I do all the help quests and still get it? I would assume so, since the final Karen quest is -30 if done right (well wrong but you know what I mean). Then I just gotta be a big jerk to my pals and not save the rift mons or anyone else right? Edited July 27, 2021 by pizzagod13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzagod13 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Xoanon said: You have to wait for the timer to run out. Well then I guess I'm glad that most of the routes are inconsequential, except for Cassandra's choice. Maybe people mixed up exposing Flora with telling Cassandra everything, idk. Hide contents It's possible not to save Gloria? That surprises me, Gloria always lives in my v12 runs when the Mega Audino blasts it. Although I do try to show Ren the weird book beforehand. Spoiler I would assume that Gloria dies if you DONT show the book, but not sure, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulN7 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, pizzagod13 said: In the old version the correct choice was to "do nothing" Edit: Also I was planning on going for a "bad ending". Can I do all the help quests and still get it? I would assume so, since the final Karen quest is -30 if done right (well wrong but you know what I mean). Then I just gotta be a big jerk to my pals and not save the rift mons or anyone else right? Maybe not saving Amber and Tesla like the "skater guy" said in Valor Mountain. Or being a jerk towards Mom's spirit in the Rift Chandelure's side quest. Plus, what is the right choice, now? Edited July 28, 2021 by S7rife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzagod13 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, S7rife said: Maybe not saving Amber and Tesla like the "skater guy" said in Valor Mountain. Or being a jerk towards Mom's spirit in the Rift Chandelure's side quest. Plus, what is the right choice, now? Spoiler If you are referring to the ruined present choice then I think the right choice is still to do nothing, but I am not sure. According to the V13 Relationship guide, the other two choices (hand it over 10 points, try to escape 5 points)both give bad ending points, so do nothing is the only good option. Edited July 28, 2021 by pizzagod13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulN7 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, pizzagod13 said: Reveal hidden contents If you are referring to the ruined present choice then I think the right choice is still to do nothing, but I am not sure. According to the V13 Relationship guide, the other two choices (hand it over 10 points, try to escape 5 points)both give bad ending points, so do nothing is the only good option. Got it, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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