AstralGuardian97 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I know completing Help requests will both give you karma and unlock the Anti-Assist sidequests, but does karma itself have any function in the game? If not now, is it expected that it will in future versions of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM1 Beans Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 My understanding is that it determines what path you end up on in the story, and what ending you ultimately get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Karma is one of the Puzzle-pieces for the true ending. It can be increased and lowered like an Reletionship Value and alter some Dialogue. (Based on your actions/choices) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzagod13 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) On 8/11/2021 at 8:57 PM, AstralGuardian97 said: I know completing Help requests will both give you karma and unlock the Anti-Assist sidequests, but does karma itself have any function in the game? If not now, is it expected that it will in future versions of the game? Expand Reveal hidden contents The only thing it does right now is have an influence on whether you can optionally lock yourself into the Bad/Evil Path in Chapter 15. Reveal hidden contents It gives you bad ending points for having low karma (you get 5 bad ending points for every ten points of karma below 55 you are). You can also get bad ending points from other sources, mainly certain major story choices (making the bad choice). Lastly, you can get bad ending points from having people in the main friend group not like you, 5 points per person, with Tesla giving 20 for some reason. If you have 100 you can choose to lock yourself into the bad/evil path. It should be noted that low karma is not required for this path, you just would need to rack up bad ending points in other ways. Currently, it has no other effects, but I imagine in future versions it will matter for what endings you can get. Edited August 11, 2021 by pizzagod13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharlaSmith44 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Reveal hidden contents On 8/11/2021 at 9:40 PM, pizzagod13 said: with Tesla giving 20 for some reason. Expand I'd imagine it has to do with her being an Elite 8 member 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 10:01 PM, SharlaSmith44 said: Reveal hidden contents I'd imagine it has to do with her being an Elite 8 member Expand Reveal hidden contents not to mention she takes on an adoptive motherly role for you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralGuardian97 Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 Thanks for the information, guys! Looks like your Karma value determines what sort of ending you get, and I bet it will only become more relevant over time in later versions as the story plots are further developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzagod13 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 10:01 PM, SharlaSmith44 said: Reveal hidden contents I'd imagine it has to do with her being an Elite 8 member Expand On 8/11/2021 at 10:04 PM, Lord Drakyle said: Reveal hidden contents not to mention she takes on an adoptive motherly role for you Expand Reveal hidden contents I mean yeah, but 20 points?!? That is the same amount of points you get for literally murdering Karrina. Murder is equivalent to making adoptive mama sad, like wat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Drakyle Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 12:06 AM, pizzagod13 said: Reveal hidden contents I mean yeah, but 20 points?!? That is the same amount of points you get for literally murdering Karrina. Murder is equivalent to making adoptive mama sad, like wat. Expand Reveal hidden contents i dont think you can make her sad unless ya being an outright ass to her and tbf the opportunity where it happens you would be pretty confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzagod13 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 12:26 AM, Lord Drakyle said: Reveal hidden contents i dont think you can make her sad unless ya being an outright ass to her and tbf the opportunity where it happens you would be pretty confused Expand Reveal hidden contents The main chance is to say "..." when she gives you the room. I am pretty sure saying that makes it impossible to get her to like you again since its -3 points, and there are very few points with her to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Mods Dreamy Posted August 12, 2021 Global Mods Share Posted August 12, 2021 Reveal hidden contents Wouldn't the main bad thing with Tesla be not saving Amber from Kyogre in Valor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vum Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 1:22 AM, Dreamy said: Reveal hidden contents Wouldn't the main bad thing with Tesla be not saving Amber from Kyogre in Valor? Expand She doesnt lose any points if you dont save her but only 1 if you save her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321_King_123 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Like everyone already said, i think karma points will affect which final you get.. Im my mind, there are 3 finals; The bad, the neutral and the true ending. The bad, which Viscount already said how to get it/start it The neutral, where you go in the good path, but dont have enough Karma points And the true ending, where i think you would need to have a insane amount of Karma points and good relasionship point, that will only affect the final version of the game, Or the one before it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Morningstar Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 As stated, it's not clear but as of V13, it's implied that there are multiple possible endings. Your actions or inaction (i.e doing the help quests and saving characters and rift Pokemon or not) and relationships with the characters add up to Karma which essentially represents the interceptor's reputation. Right now it doesn't seem to be creating a difference other than some dialogue (i.e Melia's answer when Erin asks her if she trusts the interceptor in the library and whether Gardevoir verbally lashes out at the interceptor or laughs them off). The most significant effect is the option which has just been introduced in V13 to join Team Xen during the interceptor's nightmare realm. With this option now available (though I am under the impression that you have to be trying to be evil to unlock it), and although it goes nowhere right now, it has to be the official fork in the road that splits the plot into at least two significantly different directions, possibly three. Either there is the black and white good or bad or there's the good/true, the neutral and the bad and Karma is the GPS that navigates your path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzagod13 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) On 8/12/2021 at 1:22 AM, Dreamy said: Reveal hidden contents Wouldn't the main bad thing with Tesla be not saving Amber from Kyogre in Valor? Expand Reveal hidden contents You would think so, but according to the V13 relationship guide that is not the case. You gain 1 point if you save her, nothing happens if you don't (other than the unrelated bad ending points) On 8/12/2021 at 10:20 AM, 321_King_123 said: Like everyone already said, i think karma points will affect which final you get.. Im my mind, there are 3 finals; The bad, the neutral and the true ending. The bad, which Viscount already said how to get it/start it The neutral, where you go in the good path, but dont have enough Karma points And the true ending, where i think you would need to have a insane amount of Karma points and good relasionship point, that will only affect the final version of the game, Or the one before it Expand Reveal hidden contents I think there will be a four endings 1. true ending (A bunch of nonsense to get this probably. Or maybe just high RP/Karma) 2. Normal/Good end (Don't met the requirements for true end) 3. Bad End (Take the good path but lose the final battle, or something like that) 4. Evil End (Join the bad guys) That is just my guess though. EDIT: Oh and there is already the other bad ending for handing it over, in the ruined present, so I guess that would also be an ending... There is also the joke "vacation" ending, which you can get before you even get your first mon, by talking to the guy with the boat in the harbor, in chapter 1 (i think he stays there for a while, but ch1 is the earliest) Edited August 14, 2021 by pizzagod13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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