(Spoilers) Does anyone know what function karma has, if any?

[AstralGuardian97]

I know completing Help requests will both give you karma and unlock the Anti-Assist sidequests, but does karma itself have any function in the game? If not now, is it expected that it will in future versions of the game?

[MDM1 Beans]

My understanding is that it determines what path you end up on in the story, and what ending you ultimately get.

[Punch]

Karma is one of the Puzzle-pieces for the true ending.

It can be increased and lowered like an Reletionship Value and alter some Dialogue. (Based on your actions/choices)

 

[pizzagod13]

43 minutes ago, AstralGuardian97 said:

I know completing Help requests will both give you karma and unlock the Anti-Assist sidequests, but does karma itself have any function in the game? If not now, is it expected that it will in future versions of the game?

Spoiler

The only thing it does right now is have an influence on whether you can optionally lock yourself into the Bad/Evil Path in Chapter 15.

 

Spoiler

It gives you bad ending points for having low karma (you get 5 bad ending points for every ten points of karma below 55 you are). You can also get bad ending points from other sources, mainly certain major story choices (making the bad choice). Lastly, you can get bad ending points from having people in the main friend group not like you, 5 points per person, with Tesla giving 20 for some reason. If you have 100 you can choose to lock yourself into the bad/evil path. 

 

It should be noted that low karma is not required for this path, you just would need to rack up bad ending points in other ways.

 

Currently, it has no other effects, but I imagine in future versions it will matter for what endings you can get. 

 

Edited August 11, 2021 by pizzagod13

[SharlaSmith44]

Spoiler

19 minutes ago, pizzagod13 said:

with Tesla giving 20 for some reason.

I'd imagine it has to do with her being an Elite 8 member

 

[Lord Drakyle]

2 minutes ago, SharlaSmith44 said:

  Hide contents

I'd imagine it has to do with her being an Elite 8 member

 

Spoiler

not to mention she takes on an adoptive motherly role for you

 

[AstralGuardian97]

Thanks for the information, guys! Looks like your Karma value determines what sort of ending you get, and I bet it will only become more relevant over time in later versions as the story plots are further developed.

[pizzagod13]

2 hours ago, SharlaSmith44 said:

  Hide contents

I'd imagine it has to do with her being an Elite 8 member

 

 

2 hours ago, Lord Drakyle said:

  Hide contents

not to mention she takes on an adoptive motherly role for you

 

Spoiler

I mean yeah, but 20 points?!? That is the same amount of points you get for literally murdering Karrina. Murder is equivalent to making adoptive mama sad, like wat. 

 

[Lord Drakyle]

19 minutes ago, pizzagod13 said:

 

  Hide contents

I mean yeah, but 20 points?!? That is the same amount of points you get for literally murdering Karrina. Murder is equivalent to making adoptive mama sad, like wat. 

 

Spoiler

i dont think you can make her sad unless ya being an outright ass to her and tbf the opportunity where it happens you would be pretty confused

 

[pizzagod13]

16 minutes ago, Lord Drakyle said:

  Hide contents

i dont think you can make her sad unless ya being an outright ass to her and tbf the opportunity where it happens you would be pretty confused

 

Spoiler

The main chance is to say "..." when she gives you the room. I am pretty sure saying that makes it impossible to get her to like you again since its -3 points, and there are very few points with her to be had. 

 

[Dreamy]

Spoiler

Wouldn't the main bad thing with Tesla be not saving Amber from Kyogre in Valor?

 

[Vum]

2 hours ago, Dreamy said:

  Hide contents

Wouldn't the main bad thing with Tesla be not saving Amber from Kyogre in Valor?

 

She doesnt lose any   points if you dont save her but only 1 if you save her

[321_King_123]

Like everyone already said, i think karma points will affect which final you get..

Im my mind, there are 3 finals; The bad, the neutral and the true ending.

The bad, which Viscount already said how to get it/start it

The neutral, where you go in the good path, but dont have enough Karma points

And the true ending, where i think you would need to have a insane amount of Karma points and good relasionship point, that will only affect the final version of the game, Or the one before it

[Lucifer Morningstar]

As stated, it's not clear but as of V13, it's implied that there are multiple possible endings. 

 

Your actions or inaction (i.e doing the help quests and saving characters and rift Pokemon or not) and relationships with the characters add up to Karma which essentially represents the interceptor's reputation. 

 

Right now it doesn't seem to be creating a difference other than some dialogue (i.e Melia's answer when Erin asks her if she trusts the interceptor in the library and whether Gardevoir verbally lashes out at the interceptor or laughs them off).

The most significant effect is the option which has just been introduced in V13 to join Team Xen during the interceptor's nightmare realm. With this option now available (though I am under the impression that you have to be trying to be evil to unlock it), and although it goes nowhere right now, it has to be the official fork in the road that splits the plot into at least two significantly different directions, possibly three. 

 

Either there is the black and white good or bad or there's the good/true, the neutral and the bad and Karma is the GPS that navigates your path. 

 

 

[pizzagod13]

On 8/11/2021 at 9:22 PM, Dreamy said:

  Hide contents

Wouldn't the main bad thing with Tesla be not saving Amber from Kyogre in Valor?

 

Spoiler

You would think so, but according to the V13 relationship guide that is not the case. You gain 1 point if you save her, nothing happens if you don't (other than the unrelated bad ending points)

 

On 8/12/2021 at 6:20 AM, 321_King_123 said:

Like everyone already said, i think karma points will affect which final you get..

Im my mind, there are 3 finals; The bad, the neutral and the true ending.

The bad, which Viscount already said how to get it/start it

The neutral, where you go in the good path, but dont have enough Karma points

And the true ending, where i think you would need to have a insane amount of Karma points and good relasionship point, that will only affect the final version of the game, Or the one before it

Spoiler

 

I think there will be a four endings

1. true ending (A bunch of nonsense to get this probably. Or maybe just high RP/Karma)

2. Normal/Good end (Don't met the requirements for true end)

3. Bad End (Take the good path but lose the final battle, or something like that)

4. Evil End (Join the bad guys)

 

That is just my guess though. 

 

EDIT: Oh and there is already the other bad ending for handing it over, in the ruined present, so I guess that would also be an ending... There is also the joke "vacation" ending, which you can get before you even get your first mon, by talking to the guy with the boat in the harbor, in chapter 1 (i think he stays there for a while, but ch1 is the earliest)

 

 

Edited August 14, 2021 by pizzagod13