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How To start the bad ending


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yo

So can anybody tell me how to start the bad ending where you get to choose between Our friends ooor THE OBLIVION. And you might have already guessed That I want to fight for THE OBLIVION. So can anybody tell me how to go through this because i would love to fight for madme x.

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you can't really just "start" the bad ending from a normal save file, you'd have to go back and replay the game (unless you've racked up enough bad ending points via your normal playthrough). 

 

a few things you HAVE to make sure you do:

 

-low rep with Tesla

-not saving Amber at Valor Mountain

-not saving either rift Garbodor or Hippowdon

-running away with the fake time diamond during the Distant Time segment (handing over the diamond glitches your save as of v13.0.5)

-getting Florin, Karen, and Karrina killed

(tip: you don't actually have to be mean to anyone besides Tesla, since just being mean to her will give you enough points)

 

do all of that and you'll have enough points to be able to join Clear and Kieran during the mc's nightmare realm 

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You need 100 bad ending points, you can get them in the following ways (which are usually being a bad person, or making poor choices)

 

-Don't save Amber in Valor Mountain (10 points)

-Failing to save Rift Garbodor (10 points)

-Hand Over the time diamond (10 points) - This one is currently bugged and will soft lock you!

-try to escape with the time diamond (5 points)

-Get Florin killed (go with Flora in the caves and agree to join her, backstab/expose her at the end of the cave and then tell Cassandra everything) (20 points)

-During the quest with Karen in the Labyrinth, let Karrina kill her, then kill karrina (10 points for letting karen die, 20 for killing Karrina, 30 points total) -- This requires you to do all 3 hidden library help quests, so make sure to do them!

-Dont save Rift Hippo (10 points) 

-Have low karma. You get karma for doing sidequests. Having less than 55 karma will give you scaling bad ending points (5 points for every ten karma you are below 55). Probably best to ignore this one.

-Have the main cast not like you, specifically, Melia, Ren, Aelita, Erin, Venam and Amber. Each of them will give you 5 points, if you have negative relationship points with them, you can accomplish this by being a jerk to them constantly. (5 each)

-Lastly, if Tesla does not like you, then you will get a absolutely insane 20 points, there is only one instance in the game to lose points with her, which is when she shows you the new room she is giving you. (20 points)

 

The actually start of the bad ending wont happen until the MC's nightmare realm. You can check your bad ending calc with debug mode, it is number 700 in the list. (You can of course also change it to the required amount if you wanted to, but don't do that lol)

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