Vengar Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) So i made this gengar setup which is kinda op in pvp Item: Wide Lens EVS: 252 Speed and Sp Atk Nature:Timid Ability: Cursed Body -Hypnosis (for hex and dream eater) -Hex (with hypnosis it does 130 dmg plus STAB) -Dream Eater (Hypnosis and gains hp) -Destiny Bond (if all else fails) Tell me if you have any improvements Edited December 12, 2021 by Vengar Forgot to mention some stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastronely Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Way too inconsistent, if you ask me. Even with Wide Lens, Hypnosis is not recommend on any serious set. Hex + Hypnosis is actually weaker than just using Shadow Ball 2 times. And most of the time, the opponent will just wake up and attack you anyway, so what's the point? I would recommend a standard Choice Specs set, with Shadow Ball, Thunderbolt/Dazzling Gleam/Focus Blast, Sludge Wave and Trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aariq Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 16 hours ago, Vengar said: So i made this gengar setup which is kinda op in pvp Item: Wide Lens EVS: 252 Speed and Sp Atk Nature:Timid Ability: Cursed Body -Hypnosis (for hex and dream eater) -Hex (with hypnosis it does 130 dmg plus STAB) -Dream Eater (Hypnosis and gains hp) -Destiny Bond (if all else fails) Tell me if you have any improvements A hex set would work much better when paired with toxic spikes. Add venoshock for extra STAB power. Sash+Nasty Plot will work well with this set too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastronely Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Aariq said: A hex set would work much better when paired with toxic spikes. Add venoshock for extra STAB power. Sash+Nasty Plot will work well with this set too. This is Gen 7, so no Nasty Plot for Gengar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vengar Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Aariq said: A hex set would work much better when paired with toxic spikes. Add venoshock for extra STAB power. Sash+Nasty Plot will work well with this set too. Thanks for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vengar Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 12:31 AM, Gastronely said: Way too inconsistent, if you ask me. Even with Wide Lens, Hypnosis is not recommend on any serious set. Hex + Hypnosis is actually weaker than just using Shadow Ball 2 times. And most of the time, the opponent will just wake up and attack you anyway, so what's the point? I would recommend a standard Choice Specs set, with Shadow Ball, Thunderbolt/Dazzling Gleam/Focus Blast, Sludge Wave and Trick. Thanks for the advice. I get where your coming from. Normally, i dont use this set, i use a set like the one you mentioned but recently i want to try out new sets for fun and shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennylava Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 5:56 PM, Gastronely said: This is Gen 7, so no Nasty Plot for Gengar No Sludge Wave either unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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