Elite four and champion team building help.

[Magus543]

So I've finally gotten past Saphira and Terra, and on to Victory road.

 

I'd like some team building advice, I'll need Pokemon who can change terrain and weather of the Elite four areas, and the Champion. I've also heard that if you lose to Lin, then your data gets deleted or something.  Pretty hardcore.

 

 

So I'm bringing a team that consists of Hydreigon, Mimikyu, Blaziken, and Metagross with 2 reserve members that aren't up to snuff lately, so can anyone please recommend me Pokemon that would be quite helpful for the endgame? I do need a reliable terrain and weather setter anyway. 

[Seina]

29 minutes ago, Magus543 said:

So I've finally gotten past Saphira and Terra, and on to Victory road.

 

I'd like some team building advice, I'll need Pokemon who can change terrain and weather of the Elite four areas, and the Champion. I've also heard that if you lose to Lin, then your data gets deleted or something.  Pretty hardcore.

 

 

So I'm bringing a team that consists of Hydreigon, Mimikyu, Blaziken, and Metagross with 2 reserve members that aren't up to snuff lately, so can anyone please recommend me Pokemon that would be quite helpful for the endgame? I do need a reliable terrain and weather setter anyway. 

about Lin part, you'll "only" have to start over from Heather, at least it's better than the data getting deleted

 

Also about Lin (2nd fight, since 1st fight is field-less), New World field can only be changed by Gravity (temporarily) or Geomancy (permanent) into Starlight Arena, so I guess bringing uhmmm, Sableye and Umbreon or any staller then

Edited May 23, 2022 by Seina
adding more stuffs

[TheRK9]

I'll make suggestions based on a general teambuilding perspective rather than specifically counterteaming the E4, partially because it's more fun and to avoid spoilers:

I would recommend Serperior or Lycanroc for Terrain control.

- Grassy Terrain synergises best with your team by boosting Blaziken, since the other ones don't really benefit you. It also gives you another Ground type resistance, and covers your team's inability to deal with Water types. Contrary Leaf Storm is obviously amazing, and Nature Power is extremely good in this game as well. Grassy Terrain is an egg move though, so it is a bit annoying to get. If you want I can trade you a decent Snivy. 

- Lycanroc is amazing because Splintered Stormshards removes the field permanently, whereas any manual terrain is temporary. It also gives you a much stronger initial damage, and offers you a proper counter to Flying and Fire types. Strong Priority is also something you literally cannot have too much of.


As for weather control, you honestly don't really need it. Your team isn't built to benefit from any given weather, and only one of the elite four actually utilises it. I would recommend that you just teach one of your Pokémon the Sunny Day TM for that specific fight and then forget it. 

For a final team member you can get almost anything. I would recommend a Grass type if you didn't get Serperior because you are very weak to Ground and Water types otherwise. If you got Serperior, I would recommend a Rock or Electric type for Flying types, or a Sticky Web setter for speed control (Galvantula can notably do both)

[Dark Legend]

Get yourself an Alolan Sandslash mate.

[Magus543]

1 hour ago, TheRK9 said:

I'll make suggestions based on a general teambuilding perspective rather than specifically counterteaming the E4, partially because it's more fun and to avoid spoilers:

I would recommend Serperior or Lycanroc for Terrain control.

- Grassy Terrain synergises best with your team by boosting Blaziken, since the other ones don't really benefit you. It also gives you another Ground type resistance, and covers your team's inability to deal with Water types. Contrary Leaf Storm is obviously amazing, and Nature Power is extremely good in this game as well. Grassy Terrain is an egg move though, so it is a bit annoying to get. If you want I can trade you a decent Snivy. 

- Lycanroc is amazing because Splintered Stormshards removes the field permanently, whereas any manual terrain is temporary. It also gives you a much stronger initial damage, and offers you a proper counter to Flying and Fire types. Strong Priority is also something you literally cannot have too much of.


As for weather control, you honestly don't really need it. Your team isn't built to benefit from any given weather, and only one of the elite four actually utilises it. I would recommend that you just teach one of your Pokémon the Sunny Day TM for that specific fight and then forget it. 

For a final team member you can get almost anything. I would recommend a Grass type if you didn't get Serperior because you are very weak to Ground and Water types otherwise. If you got Serperior, I would recommend a Rock or Electric type for Flying types, or a Sticky Web setter for speed control (Galvantula can notably do both)

Hmmmmm, Serperior and Lycanroc sound good, but I think I'll go with Serperior. I was also thinking of Araquanid or Toxapex.

 

 

 

 

 

55 minutes ago, Dark Warrior said:

Get yourself an Alolan Sandslash mate.

 Did it help during the endgame?

[Dark Legend]

Well, I'm not done yet, but against Heather, Bennett and Laura and Elias, it was stronger than Arceus could ever dream of.

[TheRK9]

23 minutes ago, Magus543 said:

I was also thinking of Araquanid or Toxapex.

I was thinking of Toxapex but people usually yell at me whenever I mention that Pokémon in any context so I decided not to. It's a fantastic option though. 

[Bigodes]

There's a guy on Youtube doing a "Two mon run". He basically defeats the E4 and Champion fights with a Honchkrow and a Blaziken. He uses some cheesy strats a few times, but since you have a Blaziken already, maybe he could give you some ideas. I copied his strategy for the second E4 battle almost verbatim! This if you don't mind spoiling the E4 teams, of course.

The New World Field, as the other user said, can't be easily changed. Nonetheless, I'd recommend you to get a Prankster male Meowstic with dual screens, Toxic and Misty Terrain. MT is learned naturally, IIRC, and by that point you should already have the TMs for the other three moves. Also, if you get halfway decent IVs and time your moves well, Prankster basically guarantees that he'll move three times before going down. Worked miracles throughout the game.

Without knowing the movesets, I suppose your Hydreigon is focused on sp. atk, and the other three are physical, right? If that's the case, I think it would be nice to raise a good special attacker, maybe a Gardevoir with Dazzling Gleam, Psychic and Thunderbolt? Ampharos and Aegislash might as well be great options. I went with Choice Specs Rotom-Wash as my only special mon for most of the game, but I don't really reccomend it... :P

Oh, and one more thing: several moves get their power increased in the New World Field. Metagross' Meteor Mash benefit from this field, as well as Dazzling Gleam and most dark moves. Maybe playing around it would be better than trying to control the field overall?

[Magus543]

On 5/24/2022 at 1:01 AM, TheRK9 said:

I'll make suggestions based on a general teambuilding perspective rather than specifically counterteaming the E4, partially because it's more fun and to avoid spoilers:

I would recommend Serperior or Lycanroc for Terrain control.

- Grassy Terrain synergises best with your team by boosting Blaziken, since the other ones don't really benefit you. It also gives you another Ground type resistance, and covers your team's inability to deal with Water types. Contrary Leaf Storm is obviously amazing, and Nature Power is extremely good in this game as well. Grassy Terrain is an egg move though, so it is a bit annoying to get. If you want I can trade you a decent Snivy. 

- Lycanroc is amazing because Splintered Stormshards removes the field permanently, whereas any manual terrain is temporary. It also gives you a much stronger initial damage, and offers you a proper counter to Flying and Fire types. Strong Priority is also something you literally cannot have too much of.


As for weather control, you honestly don't really need it. Your team isn't built to benefit from any given weather, and only one of the elite four actually utilises it. I would recommend that you just teach one of your Pokémon the Sunny Day TM for that specific fight and then forget it. 

For a final team member you can get almost anything. I would recommend a Grass type if you didn't get Serperior because you are very weak to Ground and Water types otherwise. If you got Serperior, I would recommend a Rock or Electric type for Flying types, or a Sticky Web setter for speed control (Galvantula can notably do both)

Alright, I can get past Heather just fine, but having trouble with Bennett and Laura. This is mostly a test run since my team isn't fully lvled yet. 

 

 

Got any recommendations? Alola Sandslash sounds good but I'll take other suggestions. 

[TheRK9]

4 hours ago, Magus543 said:

Alright, I can get past Heather just fine, but having trouble with Bennett and Laura. This is mostly a test run since my team isn't fully lvled yet. 

 

 

Got any recommendations? Alola Sandslash sounds good but I'll take other suggestions. 

Get the Sunny Day TM and any move that can set the field on fire and you'll be fine.