Dwyh Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I want to discuss a scene in the Story: I am talking about the scene where we fight against Clear while Kieran wipes the database. There are so many strong trainers with us like Adam or Aelita. But instead of contributing anything we are the only one battling while they are effectively t-posing in the background? I feel like this would be easily fixable by just having clear and kieran activate some sec drones for them to fight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus543 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Yeah, this seriously just makes all the other heroes incompetent as shit. We outnumber Clear and Kieran vastly, Aelita has no reason to just stand around while we do all the work defeating Clear, this is the same robot lady who ruined Taelia's life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerogatoryTrainer Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Everyone's hyper focused on watching your battle instead of doing anything pro-active. If the game were an actual anime like in Yugioh or something, there'd be plenty of slow zooming in on their faces as they explain what exactly the player just did or having inner monologues about the battle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulN7 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 The reason is...plot armor! Or something, I feel like MC works hard more than the entirety of the main roaster. Actually, probably is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comcart Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 okay no seriously, this was really annoying while I was just standing there.... Like... I feel like they had to let Clear and Kieran wipe the database, bc otherwise we'd have all the answers to all the questions so easily or something, so ofc they HAD to "win" there, Spoiler ((especially bc it leads to the true awakening of the interceptor eventually)) but.... they seriously could have just thrown down some SEC drones or other fighting machines to keep everyone else there busy? Aelita, unbothered by us fighting Clear, could have taken the opportunity to gang up on Kieran with the others. It's a really b l e h spot, right in an otherwise super cool arc. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dausk Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Yeah... I can't fathom how anyone thought that scene was fine as is. Even if we assume that all trainers have been defeated (Aelita had just woken up), Delpha is literally standing right there. Also, why did Clear and Kieran leave the base to confront the group earlier? Isn't their goal right down there, and by leaving they're informing their enemies of the Ligosomnia machine's location? It's a very strange scene considering the game justifies your allies' lack of help in other scenes (Venam being out of Pokemon on Valor Mountain, and Regirock blocking Melia and Cella from reaching Vivian). There are other instances of it as well, but the player usually ends up winning anyway, so it doesn't really matter as much (even though it's still annoying) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comcart Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dausk said: Yeah... I can't fathom how anyone thought that scene was fine as is. Even if we assume that all trainers have been defeated (Aelita had just woken up), Delpha is literally standing right there. Also, why did Clear and Kieran leave the base to confront the group earlier? Isn't their goal right down there, and by leaving they're informing their enemies of the Ligosomnia machine's location? It's a very strange scene considering the game justifies your allies' lack of help in other scenes (Venam being out of Pokemon on Valor Mountain, and Regirock blocking Melia and Cella from reaching Vivian). There are other instances of it as well, but the player usually ends up winning anyway, so it doesn't really matter as much (even though it's still annoying) also, Aelita has been shown to be incredible physically active and strong? So she could have like... Just backflipped over the protagonist while Delpha used fire blast on Kieran or something -- will o' wisp that dude to just start slowly incinerating him ig -- and punched the guy in the face to stop him from erasing everything. I'm pretty sure there has been shown like... NO real excuse for any of them to NOT have done anything there, and it's ridiculously funny though to imagine all the things they could have done to stop Clear and Kieran then, instead of just watching the MC battle XDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickroom Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 i mean there is an active battle going on, so people not rushing Kieran makes some sense, although them not helping at all is dumb. although, if I'm remembering right Erick, Val and Adam all got wrecked trying to stop them initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charon Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Honestly the whole thing could be fixed by having Clear drop a random barrier when she releases Tuff-Puff. Or a bunch of SEC drones dropping in and occupying everyone else. There are options to make it less dumb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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