Bullet Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 To submit a set for this Pokémon, please Copy and Paste the following code into a new reply and fill it out accordingly. Please post only set per reply. [quote][Set Name] [Species Name] (M/F) @ [Hold Item] Trait: [Ability] EVs: [EVs] [Nature] Nature - Move 1 - Move 2 - Move 3 - Move 4 [Description of Set][/quote] Please note that the format for the set's details matches that produced by Pokemon Online's Export Button, so feel free to copy/paste sets directly from your teams, with your own description provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Inspired by the muk Koga used back in the RBY days, which spammed Minimize in order to evade Muk (M) @ BrightPowder Trait: Sticky Hold EVs: 255 Atk / 196 Def / 56 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Gunk Shot - Shadow Sneak - Brick Break - Double Team Basically evading muk on some steroids, with some potential for dishing out some decent damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Muk (M) @ Black Sludge Trait: Poison Touch EVs: 116 HP / 148 Def / 244 SDef Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd) - Shadow Sneak - Curse - Brick Break - Gunk Shot Pretty basic set! You'll want to Curse as much as is safe to do so, and take advantage of the awesome coverage offered by Shadow Sneak/Gunk Shot/ Brick Break. Shadow sneak is +1 priority and, of the ghost type! Use it when it's imperative that you outspeed your opponent. Happy hunting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 It's really a shame I couldn't find this thread using the search function :C Y U BELOW 4 LETTERS MUK [I'm a Very Special Wall] [Muk] (M/F) @ [Black Sludge] Trait: [Sticky Hold] EVs: [252 HP/4 Def/252 SpDef] [Nature] Careful - Toxic - Fire Blast - Rest - Sleep Talk/Stockpile/Taunt [As anyone who is familiar with Muk may know, he is a great Special Defensive juggernaut, with a large health pool to boot. This set capitalizes on that bulkiness, functioning as a Toxic staller. Fire Blast hits those pesky steels that are immune to your Toxic, but Poison types prove annoying. Rest is a great recuperation move that works with Sleep Talk in the classic combo, letting you use moves without draining PP of your precious Fire Blast.. However, Taunt functions to shut down walls, and Stockpile can make you amazing. However, a nice fat poison type can sit in your way even if you're Stockpiled, and force you to stall war or switch. For EVs, I have optimized him for Specially Defensiveness, though you may make him more of a mixed tank with Defense. Also, Special Attack investment for the sake of a stronger Fire Blast is viable.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal Edge Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I was looking over Muk stuff and uh...why Fire Blast over Fire Punch? I mean, unless you're using POison Touch (which your set doesn't) wouldn't Fire Punch do more due to the significantly larger amount of Atk Muk has over SpA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Fire Blast kills Skarm. Fire Punch umm.. doesn't do much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal Edge Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Ah, alright, against Skarm it makes sense. Derp. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyria Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Evasion Abuse Muk (M) @ Black Sludge Trait: Poison Touch EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Minimize - Curse - Poison Jab - Mud Bomb/Focus Punch The idea behind this set is to switch in on something that doesn't threaten Muk and rapidly accumulate evasion boosts. As this set maximizes Muk's great special bulk, it can come in on most special attackers. Minimize gives +2 evasion, and should always take priority over Curse. That can wait until you're at +6 evasion. Poison Jab is preferable over Gunk Shot, as it has 4x more PP, and 30% more accuracy. It doesn't effect steels, so Mud Bomb is there for super-effective type coverage, further lowering your opponent's accuracy. Focus Punch is an option over Mud Bomb, as it's more than twice as strong (base 150 power), and has great synchrony with Minimize. Skarmory walls this set, but I don't see it falling to the NU tier in the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 [quote name='Valkyria' timestamp='1339917703' post='34516'] Evasion Abuse Muk (M) @ Black Sludge Trait: Poison Touch EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Minimize - Curse - Poison Jab - Mud Bomb/Focus Punch The idea behind this set is to switch in on something that doesn't threaten Muk and rapidly accumulate evasion boosts. As this set maximizes Muk's great special bulk, it can come in on most special attackers. Minimize gives +2 evasion, and should always take priority over Curse. That can wait until you're at +6 evasion. Poison Jab is preferable over Gunk Shot, as it has 4x more PP, and 30% more accuracy. It doesn't effect steels, so Mud Bomb is there for super-effective type coverage, further lowering your opponent's accuracy. Focus Punch is an option over Mud Bomb, as it's more than twice as strong (base 150 power), and has great synchrony with Minimize. Skarmory walls this set, but I don't see it falling to the NU tier in the foreseeable future. [/quote] Set weak to Perish Song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 [quote name='Phazer' timestamp='1340053322' post='34650'] Set weak to Perish Song. [/quote] You do realize that ALL set up sets have that problem, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 [quote name='Neo' timestamp='1340055055' post='34652'] You do realize that ALL set up sets have that problem, right? [/quote] And that hardly anyone uses perish song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='Hark' timestamp='1340057560' post='34654'] And that hardly anyone uses perish song [/quote] It's a fucking 3 turns to maximize Evasion, and 6 turns to maximize Curse, it's not like the average Dragonite that can ddance and get psonged away and come back and do the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Implying you need to max everything out. If you can get the sweep going at +4 Evasion and +3 atk, def, then more power to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='Phazer' timestamp='1340077208' post='34665'] It's a fucking 3 turns to maximize Evasion, and 6 turns to maximize Curse, it's not like the average Dragonite that can ddance and get psonged away and come back and do the same thing. [/quote] How is that even relevant to people using perish song omg i'm so lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazer Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 [quote name='Neo' timestamp='1340078700' post='34668'] Implying you need to max everything out. If you can get the sweep going at +4 Evasion and +3 atk, def, then more power to you. [/quote] Say you get to that, is Muk going to have full hp? Then once Perish Song'd it's just going to leave injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 [quote name='Neo' timestamp='1340055055' post='34652'] You do realize that ALL set up sets have that problem, right? [/quote] Like really point me to three sets you've submitted that don't have that problem Phazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyria Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 By far the best perish trapper in NU is murkrow. With Eviolite, prankster, roost and protect, he's very good at what he does. The other NU pokemon that might run perish song (ie. Lapras & Wigglytuff) can kiss their ass goodbye after a boosted focus punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Operation: Slow killer Muk @ Black Sludge Ability: Stench EVs: 148 HP / 232 Atk / 128 SpD Impish Nature - Shadow Sneak - Gunk Shot - Rest - Curse This powerful chunk of sludge makes even the deadliest dragons flee. His only weakness are mind powers and Earthquakes. The latter problem can be diminished. His base stats are not bad. They are enhanced and enough to sustain several hits. His foul mouth helps him survive here and his laziness avoid the problems for two turns. He is a sneaky guy, who hates intellectuals and sometimes he might become enraged and shoot a part of himself at you. Yes, not the most wonderful sight. Did I mention that he stinks? Man, this smell has caused many people to flinch as they come closer to him. This thing is the seven sins combined. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Wouldn't Sticky Hold or Poison Touch be better? Stench does literally nothing on the set because you are slower than everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon God Goomy Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Wouldn't Sticky Hold or Poison Touch be better? Stench does literally nothing on the set because you are slower than everything. Why not? He has Shadow Sneak lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zexal Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 He is brilliant though in his evasiveness !! with moves like minimize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I prepared him for competitive use, where evasion moves are banned :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zexal Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 But thats then somewhat of a problem ? how else can he be affective ? with his slow keep and weak defence he isnt an ideal all- round warrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCrash Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Well its stats and EV spread suggested is enough to make it sturdy. It is not there to stay for very long. If it gets 2 curses up, it goes straight to the offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zexal Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 OKY but once again if its on the offensive it isnt really very fast and what we've learned from poison types is that their moves arent really accurate the stronger they get such as gunk shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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