Redo. Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) So yeah, I decided to don't see the tiers and do a team with just sinergy and cool stufff... it works pretty well. The name was because this team was made for my little Blue god to work. Team quick glance Team building process Logically, has a Shuckle team I started with Shuckle, Shuckle can do only one work, that is set hazards and stall, but he does it very well. Later, I went with a classic core, I wanted to test both the new MegaVenusaur and the new Critical Hits Mechanics, Infernape is herejust because Fire lacks good physical weepers, but Infernape is really good at it. Later, I needed something to take care of the nasty dragon 'cause Kingdra wasn't fast enough, I tried a llot of Steel and Fairy type, but I ended with Dusclops, with Eviolite he can tank even MegaChomp Outrage and Burn it to death, also he could take easily Special hits with Venu and Shuckle. For the last spot, I wanted something faster than Infernape just to take care of RKing, after watching some of my very old 4th Gen sets, I found this gem, also works excellent in my team has I needed someone to take care of Ghost type and Fighting isn't a problem. TEAM IN-DEPH: The lead: Blazzape (Infernape) (M) @ Choice Band Trait: Iron Fist EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Close Combat - Flare Blitz - U-turn - Thunder Punch At first it may seems a that a Band Infernape is not made to be a lead, but it's pretty fast so it can U-Turn easily and let my scout for a better switch... that or hit pretty hard with CC or Flare Blitz... Yup, it's dead if the foes lead is faster than him, but in general he can get the job done. The loved troll: LesBlues (Shuckle) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Toxic - Rest - Knock Off - Stealth Rock/Sticky Web When most of the people see Shuckle, they underestimate this kawaii thing, because when you have enough power to tank 2 Hydro Pump from Greninja (Implying I Knock off his Life Orb in the first hit) you know you just loose your power tank. Being capable of being hardly 2 or even 3HKO, this thing can easily Knock Off, set hazards, Toxic and Rest in peace, because he will stall you to death, and you know it... The only doubt is SR or ticky Web, the first one is one of the few ways to kept Volcarona, Charizard and Talonflame check, and the second one can help me other members to have an easy sweep. The monster: Gloria (Kingdra) (F) @ Scope Lens Trait: Sniper EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Focus Energy - Hydro Pump - Draco Meteor - Ice Beam I can't understand why this isn't the standart set for Kingdra, with the new Critical Hits mechanics, and considering Sniper, Focus Energy is an instant Tail Glow (AKA: +3SpA) that ignores foes SpDef ups and the SpA drop from Draco Meteor... if Kingdra wasn´t so slow... The fat: Omnomnom (Venusaur) (F) @ Venusaurite Trait: Overgrow EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Sleep Powder - Leech Seed - Giga Drain - Sludge Bomb After 4th Gen, most of the players forgotten the awesome that was Stallsaur, and with the new gift that is Venusaurite (A lot of defensive and offensive boost, and add Thick Fat) Venu can possibly be a pain to KO... Oh, and Leech Seed + Giga Drain makes the lack of Leftis forgetteable. The (other) wall: Dusquette (Dusclops) (F) @ Eviolite Trait: Frisk EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Will-O-Wisp - Disable - Pain Split - Night Shade I had already 2 walls,.. why not a third? Dusclops is the ONLY thing in my team that can keep PSweepers in check (AKA: Band Talonflame). With Eviolite he is a fearsome wall, Frisk is an extrange choice, but being able to know the foes item is always helpful to know the set, WoW is an obvious choice, Pain Split is an interesting healing move, and Night Shade is the only way to do damage, considering that Dusclops has horribly bad Attack and SpA. The revenge killer: P Z.0 (Porygon-Z) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Download EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Trick - Tri Attack - Thunderbolt - Ice Beam Another pokémon that was forgot after 4th Gen, underestimate a 130 Base SpA, with Download, and you will suffer. Tri Attack for STAB, BoltBeam for coverage, and Trick to destroy the foe's staller. CONCLUSION: This team may not be able to take those nasty super-OU-predictably-smogonite-teams, and both strong set-up pokémon and VOLCARONA heavily counter me, but it gimmick make it somewhat unpredictable, and fun to use, I'm really glad as this one turned out. IMPORTABLE LesBlues (Shuckle) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Sturdy EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Toxic - Rest - Knock Off - Stealth Rock Gloria (Kingdra) (F) @ Scope Lens Trait: Sniper EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Focus Energy - Hydro Pump - Draco Meteor - Ice Beam Blazzape (Infernape) (M) @ Choice Band Trait: Iron Fist EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Close Combat - Flare Blitz - U-turn - Thunder Punch Omnomnom (Venusaur) (F) @ Venusaurite Trait: Overgrow EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk) - Sleep Powder - Leech Seed - Giga Drain - Sludge Bomb Dusquette (Dusclops) (F) @ Eviolite Trait: Frisk EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Will-O-Wisp - Disable - Pain Split - Night Shade P Z.0 (Porygon-Z) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Download EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Trick - Tri Attack - Thunderbolt - Ice Beam Please, don't destroy me... Edited January 22, 2014 by Hinaru-Sama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanco Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 This is...an interesting team. Though you're going to struggle against Steel-types if Infernape isn't handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo. Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 This is...an interesting team. Though you're going to struggle against Steel-types if Infernape isn't handy. I don't see that the BIGGEST problem to this team, because few Steel types can tank the Hydro Pump from Focus Energy Kingdra, and both MegaVenu AND Dusclops can try to stall them to death. I'm more scared of ScarfGaychomp (And all the dragon that can outspeed PoryZ), KyuremBlack and Volcarona, those 3 things can (and will) put an end to my team, specially Volcarona, that after a +3 SpA can 0HKO my Infernape (And if I don't have SR up, a bulky Volcarona isn't 0HKO by Infernape Flare Blitz) and wipe me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Emvee Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Weak team. You have absolutely nothing for SD Talonflame, Mega Pinsir, Mega Gardevoir, (i'll name more if you want), 0 Ground resistances which leaves you 100% weak to hazards (since no Defogger or Spinner) and Earthquakes, you get beaten by Stall Teams pretty easily too, etc. And Shuckle is not a Charizard/Talonflame check LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo. Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 Weak team. You have absolutely nothing for SD Talonflame, Mega Pinsir, Mega Gardevoir, (i'll name more if you want), 0 Ground resistances which leaves you 100% weak to hazards (since no Defogger or Spinner) and Earthquakes, you get beaten by Stall Teams pretty easily too, etc. And Shuckle is not a Charizard/Talonflame check LOL. Steelix x Shuckle? Give more SDef to MegaSaur? Some Spinner/Defoger for Dusclops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Emvee Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Replacing Kingdra for 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk Rotom-W gets rid of your Talonflame weakness, your Mega Pinsir weakness, and provides Ground resistance. Replacing Dusclops for Defog Latias protects you against hazards while being an effective Pokemon to deal with Mega Charizard-Y. Not sure how else to beat Mega Gardevoir without changing around your team a lot, but since that is quite uncommon you should be fine. In the event you do see it, preserve Infernape at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvius Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 As I can tell, Hinaru wants to use creative and unique Pokemon. I want this too and I must say I hate Rotom-W, because it is the same set all day long. I would rather loose than use Pokemon I don't like. But I can't decide for him, and on paper, he would be a good counter, thats true. Defog Latias One does not simply have Latias I would suggest you to take a look at Aerodactyl. I didn't do it myself but it seems like a good counter to Volcarona and Mega-Pinsir and with Crunch you can maybe take out Guardevoirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Emvee Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Mega Aerodactyl is interesting but unfortunately it does not possess enough bulk to switch in on Mega Pinsir, though it would make the team better! That still doesn't get rid of the hazard problem though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo. Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 If you ask me, my idea was to use both underused AND not standart sets. The other way around this would be NO Stealth Rock and start using Sticky Web, cripples Mega Pinsir in his first Switch in (And all of them while it is normal Pinsir), Volcarona and everything that don't fly/levitate. Also makes a FREAKING ALWAYS CRITICAL HIT KINGDRA fast enough (Well, not this, but makes the foes slower than him). While yes, Talonflame can be a problem, Knock Off destroy it, forever, and few to none want to take a hit from +1 SpA PoryZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvius Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Why not try Taunt? With Taunt on a leader you can keep the enemy from setting up annoying stuff and it kripples tanks like Ferrothorn or Forretress .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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