departed Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 yo guys, having some troubles taking on the fighting gym my team is as follows: greninja lvl 41 Water Pulse lick Cut Smack Down Gyarados lvl 41 Hidro Pump Ice Fang Bite Aqua Tail Gardevoir lvl 41 Grass Knot Psychic Calm Mind Charge Beam Camerupt lvl 41 Lava Plume Take Down Earth Power Flame Burst Tocicroack lvl 42 Mud Bomb Sucker Punch Revenge Venoshock Growlithe lvl 41 Rock Smash Take Down Flamethrower Crunch also have a shiny noibat wich i trained because of his flying vs fighting matchup but he ends up being 1shoted everytime and a Duskul. i can take machamp, lucario and Galade preaty easiely but then stuff goes ham with that scrafty and medicham. just wondering if some1 can give me some advice about how to deal with them so i can progress with the game much apreciated. PS: iv searched a topic about it witout luck but if theres 1 already plz lemme know and dont hate much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlytosion Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) I would say your best bet is to get a flying type. My advice is to go back to EP 10 and get a zubat. It will have a 4x resistance to fighting. Evolve it into a Crobat and make it learn Acrobatics. That Pokemon alone will wreck her entire team. I would also recommend going to the move tutor and getting your greninja to learn Water Shuriken, assuming it was fixed for EP 11. The movepool you have for him is a little stale for that level. You could also consider evolving Growlithe. There's a fire stone in Pyrous Mountain where Heatmor spawns. Edited March 14, 2014 by Phlytosion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 That Duskull might be useful... Either that or a Cofagrigus, just will-o-wisp everything that doesn't have guts... I can't really help you there, but i defeated her with a Crobat with Acrobatics (Took down 5 of it's pokemons) and Infernape took down Lucario... It was easy on my case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Dragon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 As much as I'd like to give a strategy not dependent on a single Pokemon spamming a certain move, my Crobat's mad acrobatic skillz is the only way I got through Kiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 ^ I just oneshotted every one of her Pokemon with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Based on all this, here's the tip: GET A CROBAT! ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Pretty sure Crobat isn't available at this point in the game in the newer releases. From what I've heard, the first place Zubat/Golbat is available is the train connection line to Tanzan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Ugh... That's what i get for playing Episode 10, god dammit... Well, i don't know what to do now mate... Somebody, help please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantRegalia Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I got through using Gardevoir mostly, but I had help from Slurpuff for Scrafty. Charizard took down Medicham and Lucario, but Slurpuff could probably work for Medicham too. A Fairy type wouldn't be a bad idea, but Crobat's probably better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhi Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Am I the only person from EP 10 who didn't use Crobat?At any rate, I used Cofagrigus to burn & mummify. In combination with leftovers, it is quite a threat to Kiki's team. And if that doesn't work, try getting a Slurpuff. Very handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashonem Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Did you get that Snubbull from the girl in the Lapis Ward? If you did, make sure it has Intimidate, that initial attack drop is very helpful. On top of that (if you're willing to do the grinding necessary to make it usable, lvl 30 should be fine), Granbull also learns Charm (lowers attack 2 stages), and a -3 Medicham isn't going to be hurting much without hax crits; let alone if you drop it to -6 like I did. Ditto for the Scrafty. The only one that gave me trouble was the Lucario since it relied on Special Attacks, but you said you're able to take care of it. TL;DR: Get a Snubbull and Charm your way to victory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
departed Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 I ended up doing it by calm mind seting up my gardevoir and sweep 4 of her pokemons anyways, thanks for all the help and im sure this'll be a usefull topic for future reference for any1 having trouble with that scrafty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxiechan Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) Your main defense against Kiki is ghost types. Especially cofagrigus. That pokemon is such a nightmare against Kiki that even in her death she has shiverfits over my cofagrigus. She cowers in FEAAAAAARRRR. Basing it on your team, a LOT of your pokemon are weak to Kiki's pokemon's movesets. especially Greninja, Growlithe, and Gyarados. The problem is, a lot of your pokemon have lower defense base stats than most pokemon. One recommendation is to go find a bulk. The alternative of finding a bulk is to find a powerhouse. The one powerhouse in game is Azumarill, point flat. Huge power added with the fact Azurill learns Bounce at lv 23 along with it's fairy typing make it formidable against all except medicham. As I say, Azumarill/Cofagrigus was how I destroyed kiki. First match I made the mistake of sending out cofagrigus first though so I had to soft reset xD But azumarill and gardevoir are your main sweepers here(if you choose to get azurill, which can be found in the jasper ward- you can't miss it if you search the housing areas in the ward). Use them to the best of your ability, and MAKE SURE YOUR GARDEVOIR IS STILL STANDING WHEN YOU FIGHT KIKI'S TOXICROAK. Additionally, I recommend grinding your pokemon a bit. 41 seems a teensy bit low- you might want to bring them up to around 42-44. That's what I did. I made them all 43 at 50% exp, so during the battle they'd level and do more damage. But I only used Azumarill and Cofagrigus so t'was pretty easy for me. xD Am I the only person from EP 10 who didn't use Crobat? Probably. xD well, I guess I didn't either, but it was on my team at the time xD Edited March 14, 2014 by Lynxiechan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) As a side note: When i first fought Kiki in episode 10, i didn't knew the power that Azumarill was (Granted, it didn't had it's Fairy typing, but Huge Power hurts anyway...) So yeah, going with Lynx on this, i recommend Azumarill (Heck, i even voted that up... Azumarill is the definition of power...) Remember when Lin said: "Nothing beats pure *something* power? She probably has an Azumarill... EDIT: I know you already fought Kiki and won, but i recommend Azumarill for your entire "life in Reborn"... Azumarill IS Power... Edited March 14, 2014 by Vinny953 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted March 14, 2014 Support Squad Share Posted March 14, 2014 I just beat her by trading pokes so that gardevoir had a clear path to victory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoyoyoyoyoyoyo Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Well, seeing as I kinda just charged at Kiki she mopped the floor with me a good number of times before I decided to switch up my team and grind a little. But I took down Lucario with Magmar and Gallade with Houndoom(Crazy I know but flinching is a real bitch :3) Medicham was put to sleep then Hexed to death by Drifloom and Scrafty was demolished by Close Combat Infernape while he slept. Toxicroak was finished in a deathmatch with my Toxicroak, I primarily beat her through status effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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