Chevaleresse Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Dragons need more weaknesses anyway, but we could probably give them a few things to be SE against to compensate. (also, make them neutral to each other imo. There's no real reason for them to be SE on one another.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernovae Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 So I came up with another justification for fighting types being at least neutral or better against dark types. Dark types are intrinsically sneaky, they rely on the failings of their opponents technique and cheap tactics. However a fighting type has been fighting for all of it's life, it knows all of the tricks that can be used on it and is therefore prepared for whatever the dark type will do. Basically, the dark type will be incapable of tricking or outmaneuvering the fighting type due to the extensive experience the fighting type has. Personally, with this explanation I think both fighting and dark should be generally not very effective against one another. Another match up to discuss is dark vs. grass. Grass types are almost all plant-like in some way, meaning they likely rely on photosynthesis. Since we've described dark types as being able to remove light from an area it would make sense that dark type attacks would be GSE against grass types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 I can see what you're talking about with the Grass VS Dark match up, and I guess the Fighting Type matchup Kinda makes sense in a way of natural Instinct and experience playing a factor... but I think the most fighting should be against Dark types, even with that justification, is neutral since it's justification before that GameFreak came up for it being SE was that it was "righteous" and Dark was "Evil, and literally nothing else besides that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 When Attacking Dark: Always Super Effective: -Fairy (Because of their Photic Nature, the energy fields they generate will be able to counteract those of dark types, and also vica-versa. in a fight between the two, it'll be a complete powder keg.) -Ghost Generally Super Effective: -Fire (Fire always Generates a considerable amount of light, but it is going to need to be a high amount in order to overcome the aphotic field Dark Types Generate. IE, gonna need a lot of it.) -Electric (Same exact reasoning as Fire) Generally Not Effective: -Fighting (You can't easily hit what you can not first see/ locate with your eyes, now can you? but their will be some cases, like with a Lucario's aura sphere, in which this will be a very different story.) Always Not Effective: -Psychic -Ghost Immunities: -None When Dark Attacks: Always Super Effective: -Fairy (For reason stated above, they'll collide and both be highly destructive to the other.) -Psychic -Ghost -Grass Generally Super Effective: -None Generally Not Effective: -Fire (Reason stated above) -Electric (Reason stated above) Always Not Effective: -None Allright, there's the updated list for Dark, now I'm going to have to call this Final at this point, this type has beaten to death. Back to Dragons. Does anyone have a Type Match up chart they were thinking of, or should I myself draft up a sample one like I did with dark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 What Murdoc posted earlier is a good place to start: I actually had a few thoughts on Dragons. Being reptiles, most of the type chart makes sense already. Reptiles are found in every biome and climate, from the hottest desert to the rainforest to the ocean. The only places you don't really run into them are areas where it is inhospitably cold. As for why Electric types don't hit them effectively, I don't know. Perhaps their natural ability to absorb energy extends to electricity? Fairy being immune is just nonsensical, but I could see a resistance being justified somehow. On the offensive side, the energy a Fairy-type emits could just be incompatible with their biological systems, causing a sort of "energy poisoning." I agree with this. Electric could be neutral unless we're going with them having a natural resistance against nature and the elements. Also: RIP Spark Alpha. The mud rain killed everyone it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 No it didn't, just haven't gotten around to updating. Sorry about that. But it's gotten the commanding officer of the other squad so frustrated that he's just going to stand down now... because he realizes he's against the crazy people who kill "Giant Ice Chickens". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Holy...shit.... And the world thought CBRNs were bad... gives me some ideas...:3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 ^ I saw that video a few weeks ago. Gotta love Vsauce. They do some interesting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_H Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Surge, if you take that Video to be true, everything would be Deadly to humans, and not at all cooperative with them. Ergo, Gamefreak used a bit of exaggeration in the Pokedex Entries, so we shouldn't really trust them all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Surge, if you take that Video to be true, everything would be Deadly to humans, and not at all cooperative with them. Ergo, Gamefreak used a bit of exaggeration in the Pokedex Entries, so we shouldn't really trust them all that much. That,,, actually is somewhat of a good point. And surge isn't here anymore. He got called back to Fort Bexly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Squad profile- basic description Hot Wasabi CO: Lee Chang (E-5) age 30 Members: 10 Time since commissioned: several years Theme: One of the oldest squads in the Genomic Weapon Corps, they were among the earliest test batch the majority of it's current members having been enlisted in the US army and then reassigned to the program. Despite their motley and unassuming looks, they are incredibly fierce in battle. Their commander, Lee Chang, is by all appearances just a medic, but he holds under his ownership two incredibly powerful specimens of the Species Blastoise and Torterra, both of which have been identified as Alpha Males of their kind. Though they are slow to get into rhythm in a fight, once their CO has had enough, the Alpha's come out and all hell is unleashed upon their enemies. They seem to hold an alliance with a "Commander Geo" whoever this officer might be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I just wanna point out that Nathan didn't kill the Staraptor, Crusader did. That's not the tactic that would have been chosen, but Crusader's quite proud of himself and does stupid things for his pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Is it bad if when he said, "they killed my Rathalos" I honestly pictured a Rathalos for a while before realizing that it was just a name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 I just wanna point out that Nathan didn't kill the Staraptor, Crusader did. That's not the tactic that would have been chosen, but Crusader's quite proud of himself and does stupid things for his pride. Yeah, like that's gonna matter to Rodriguez if he finds out that Nathan is the thing's handler. He's going to be coming for one of you tonight though, rest assured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I'll wait for Stratos to place Lars and Logan somewhere before I post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 I know we're on types and reworking the matchup tables right now and all, but just real quick, something that's been really bothering me. Does anyone want to toss out the idea of "All pokemon Species produce Eggs?" Because honestly, it just seems fucking ridiculous to me that a clearly mammalian creature like a Flareon or a Tuaros or Pikachu, etc. would lay an egg instead of producing Offspring via Live Birth like Biology actually works. Since we're trying to go for realism here... who's in favor of doing away with that notion and going back to allowing Live Births for certain species it would make more sense for? (Yes, I know this conflicts directly with what Ray said back in Chapter one about the matter, but I can always just go back and edit...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_H Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Strat, I completely agree with you on that matter. It would definitely apply to most of the GAOs in the "Field" and "Human-like" Egg Groups. Also, I think that Golett and Golurk should also not reproduce by using Eggs, but by making an actual new version in much the same way that the legends concerning the Golem-making process mention. Edited December 11, 2014 by K_H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Evolution as it exists right now also doesn't make sense. For a species like, say, Charmeleon, that undergoes a significant metamorphosis during evolution, it would make sense for it to be a sudden change, but species with less drastic changes (e.g. Treecko, Aron, Tyrunt lines) would probably just grow similarly to real animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Does this mean staryu/mie reproduce by fragmentation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Stratos are you going to place Logan and Lars in the city or can I say Logan didn't see anyone when they got out the sewers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 You guys are still in the city, and no, there's no one else down there because Surge and you all are crazy and think outside the box and everyone at Bexly knows that. Pretty much just no one else thought of taking the sewers over as a base of operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 "A wild Enyo appeared!" eh, had to do something with her this chapter... and RIP Hot Wasabi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_H Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Stratos, weren't we working on Revamping the Types? Here's my reasoning behind Dragon being GSE against Dragon: Dragons are usually depicted as travelling alone, which leads one to think that they're Territorial. Thusly, a Dragon would evolve to do plenty of damage against another Dragon if it were to successfully hold its Territorial Claims on an Area. (BTW, You forgot to put Water in the Typing List. just FYI. ) Edited December 19, 2014 by K_H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutoratosu Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 I'll deal with making a type match up chart tomorrow if no one else wants to... And also, that probably means an update is coming too IC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_H Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) I'm not working on the Type-specific Charts, but i am working on an Overall Type Matchup Chart on Google Drive, located here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yXF5Zy6BQvP1Al2KY_xi4mwNFev-8V1c4NU9kjY257g/edit?usp=sharing We'll fill in the Boxes with whatever Effectiveness applies as we get to the Types. I've filled in only those that i'm 100% sure about being logical, as well as the ones we agreed on. The Attacking Type is on the Vertical Axis, while the Defending Type is on the Horizontal Axis. Edited December 22, 2014 by K_H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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