Shushup Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Hey Everyone! C: So I recently got to the part where I have to battle El and defeat his Arceus(Ditto).... It's so hard to defeat >.< Here are the pokemon in my team: Ken(Blaziken) - Speed Boost w/ Adamant nature (Lv. 55) -Double Kick -Brave Bird -Quick Attack -Blaze Kick BIG SHRIMP(Gyarados) - Intimidate w/ Adamant nature (Lv. 53) -Dragon Dance -Ice Fang -Aqua Tail -Bite Caster(Gardevoir) - Telepathy w/ Modest nature (Lv. 51) -Moon Blast -Magical Leaf -Calm Mind -Psychic Dinosaur(Nidoking) - Poison Point w/ Modest nature (Lv. 51) -Sludge Wave -Shadow Ball -Earth Power -Double Kick Boombox(Exploud) - Scrappy w/ Relaxed nature (Lv. 43) -Uproar -Rock Smash -Strength -Crunch Magnetic(Magneton) - Magnet Pull w/ Modest nature (Lv. 53) -Flash Cannon -Discharge -Screech -Metal Sound Thank you guys in advance for helping me with my team win against the Arceus or changing up my team to defeat it! Thanks for reading~! Have a nice morning/day/night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefalem Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Best Way is to attack it with Fight Move's A good way is to get Tyrogue from the Nature center and train it. Your Blaziken can do the Job too. I defeated it with Pangoro's Hammerarm and Hitmonchan's Sky Uppercut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shushup Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 But Double Kick isn't strong enough :c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Lore Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 But Double Kick isn't strong enough :c Then go to the move relearner and teach it Hi Jump Kick? I dunno why you even still have Double Kick at this point in the game... no offense. X'D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefalem Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Yeah I trained my Hitmonchan to lv 63 to kick his ass. Train with the Bouffalants. Be a Bouffalant Slayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Then go to the move relearner and teach it Hi Jump Kick? I dunno why you even still have Double Kick at this point in the game... no offense. X'D Accuracy can be an asshole sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Lore Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) Accuracy can be an asshole sometimes... Eh, I know that (my Scrafty misses more than I'd really care for with Hi Jump Kick, admittedly) but... it's not like Hi Jump Kick has to stay- if the accuracy bothers you that much, trade it for Sky Uppercut at level 59. And I think the (significant) power increase is a bit more important than the accuracy drop at this point... ...Especially against something like that Arceus. Edited April 19, 2014 by Lost Lore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Dragon Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) Arceus was such a pain in the ass for me that I honestly just found the Gastly in Byxbyxklah; Wasteland, leveled it until it learned Curse, equipped it with a Focus Band, save scummed until it kicked in, and let Arceus destroy the rest of my team while Curse wailed on it. Edited April 19, 2014 by Timber Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shushup Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 I'll try Lost Lore's and Nefalem's strategy. If that doesn't work, Idk what'll work xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashonem Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) Catch a Magnemite with Sturdy, evolve it into Magnezone, teach it Mirror Coat at the Move Relearner, laugh at Arceus-Ditto's pittiful Focus Blast. You could also try this strategy with a Focus Band (since we don't have Sashes) if you don't want to catch and train a new Magnemite, but it'll take more resets for the band to activate. Regardless, you should evolve that Magneton; you're able to after you beat Noel. Edited April 19, 2014 by mashonem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 use sturdy + t-wave. repeat t-wave till full heals run out. proceed to destiny bond with another pokemon. easy to train and get, magnemite is a good candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaunt Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 The easiest way is to use a Pokemon with Quick Claw & Destiny Bond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted April 19, 2014 Veterans Share Posted April 19, 2014 On my first run i deafeated arceus using gengar and destiny bond and had gengar equpped wit a focus band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) I just Toxic-stalled it with Blissey. Catch a Magnemite with Sturdy, evolve it into Magnezone, teach it Mirror Coat at the Move Relearner, laugh at Arceus-Ditto's pittiful Focus Blast. You could also try this strategy with a Focus Band (since we don't have Sashes) if you don't want to catch and train a new Magnemite, but it'll take more resets for the band to activate. Regardless, you should evolve that Magneton; you're able to after you beat Noel. I thought you couldn't obtain the Yureyu Key until after beating Radomus? Edited April 19, 2014 by Foamy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaLoveShuckle Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 In my Dark type mono I managed to be victorious without losing a pokemon. Started the battle with Umbreon used Protect to waste a Focus Blast then switched to Spiritomb for the Focus Blast then back to Umbreon to take the Dark Pulse then protect to waste another Focus Blast then back to Spiritomb and so on until it was out of Focus Blasts. Once out of Focus Blasts it was safe to use toxic with Umbreon. I spammed Toxic until he was out of Full Heals and then just Protect/Switched Pokemon until it fainted. You could use a Perish Song pokemon or a Destiny Bond to make the battle even easier. I beat Garchomp in my Dark Mono so hilariously lol. Used Prankster Liepard to Sand Attack until Liepard fainted (managed 3 Sand Attacks). Then sent out Mightyena and kept Swaggering making its attack sky high so it would kill itself from confusion. Even if it got past the confusion is missed most of its attacks thanks to -3 accuracy. Anyways this is about Arceus I just found the way tackled Garchomp funny and Garchomp and Arceus are similar battles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Lore Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I just Toxic-stalled it with Blissey. I thought you couldn't obtain the Yureyu Key until after beating Radomus? Nope, you can get it before beating Radomus~ I dunno the exact timing, but you definitely can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashonem Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Nope, you can get it before beating Radomus~ I dunno the exact timing, but you definitely can. After defeating Noel and going towards Route 1. That's when Saphiria blows the hole in the mountain that leads to the Yureyu Key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 After defeating Noel and going towards Route 1. That's when Saphiria blows the hole in the mountain that leads to the Yureyu Key Sapphira blows the wall after beating Noel. But the rock to the Yureyuu key only becomes a "Rock Smash Rock" sometime during Radomus part in the plot. I don't know exactly when though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefalem Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) As I saw Arceus first, I thought this : http://youtu.be/oXYZttxunPw Edited April 19, 2014 by Nefalem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashonem Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Sapphira blows the wall after beating Noel. But the rock to the Yureyuu key only becomes a "Rock Smash Rock" sometime during Radomus part in the plot. I don't know exactly when though. That's true. I think it becomes a Rock Smash rock after you beat Fern, but I'm not complete certain. Regardless, you can get the key before you beat Radomus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 That's true. I think it becomes a Rock Smash rock after you beat Fern, but I'm not complete certain. Regardless, you can get the key before you beat Radomus. Yes you right. You can get it before Radomus, but i don't think you can get it before the Arceus. I have to test it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashonem Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Yes you right. You can get it before Radomus, but i don't think you can get it before the Arceus. I have to test it though. I did. I don't really have any way to prove it, but I know for a fact that I beat Arceus-Ditto with my Magnezone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhi Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 The pro strategy: Curse+Sand Attack on a Focus Banded defensive Poke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) I did. I don't really have any way to prove it, but I know for a fact that I beat Arceus-Ditto with my Magnezone Was this in Episode 11, or a prior episode? EDIT: I checked the rock again after Gardevoir was kidnapped, but before going to the Grand Gates. It is indeed Rock Smash-able now. Edited April 20, 2014 by Foamy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Thank you sir. Now i'm sure of how it is. Will remember that when i tell other people about it ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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