Camelot Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) This is another bro's team. without further ado... Kyogre @ Choice Scarf Trait: Drizzle EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Water Spout - Scald - Ice Beam - Thunder Special beast. Rainy Water Spout can do 60% or more even to water pokemons. scald for burn , thunder ofc in rain. ice beam for coverage. Xerneas @ Power Herb Trait: Fairy Aura EVs: 156 HP / 252 SAtk / 100 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Geomancy - Moonblast - Focus Blast - Thunderbolt good sp sweeper. power herb = geomancy in one turn so after geomancy xerneas sweeps almost everything. thunder maybe i should pick instead of tbolt. Arceus @ Lum Berry Trait: Multitype EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Swords Dance - Extreme Speed - Shadow Claw - Earthquake Physical sweeper. basic standart set. Mewtwo @ Mewtwonite Y Trait: Pressure EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Calm Mind - Psystrike - Flamethrower - Grass Knot boosing stats 1 time and mewtwo become OP unstoppable grass knot + flamethrower = coverage against common ubers Zekrom @ Choice Band Trait: Teravolt EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Dragon Claw - Bolt Strike - Crunch - Fusion Bolt banded zekrom can kill almost everything like 50-65 % damage in one turn.fusion bolt for additional electr move. Groudon @ Leftovers Trait: Drought EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Stealth Rock - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Toxic Physical tank. stealth rock and toxic are for team support. SO this is an ubers team now. Feel free and suggest changes if this team needs them. thanks ) Edited April 19, 2014 by Camelot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 So what happens when they have Giratina+another wall? Your team doesn't seem to have a whole lot other than Arceus's Lum Berry to counter status, and nothing to counter shuffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camelot Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 because this is not defensive team. and i amde 2 changes. look them please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 That's...a REALLY bad team. Especially when you do things like take 2 Electric moves on Zekrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camelot Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) well than what changes i need to do? Edited April 19, 2014 by Camelot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Don't run Kyogre and Groudon on the same team for one. Don't run Zekrom for two, and if you do insist on using it, give it some speed so it doesn't get OHKOd by earthquake before it can do anything. And don't EVER run two moves of the same type on a Pokémon. Bolt Strike and Fusion Bolt on Zekrom has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeleton Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Groudon seems pretty useless on this team, though it isn't the best team in general. I guess Ferrothorn could do the job? It's what I use, it's surprisingly good in ubers. Also I'm not sure what common ubers are weak against grass knot and flamethrower, the majority of ubers are dragons. Though I get that grass knot's damage is calculated with the weight of the pokemon or whatever. I'd replace them with Thunder(bolt) and Ice beam. Thunder if you want to abuse Kyogre's weather effect if it's still up. Also I wouldn't run Focus Miss on Xerneas, I'm pretty sure there's a better move. Though I wouldn't run Focus Miss on anyone. I'm kinda bad at making teams but I'm just trying to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 While i also feel that Groundon is a bit out of place, your team is not exactly a weather based team, so i guess you can keep it. I don't know which pokes you're planning to hit with Grass Knot though. I'd run Mewtwo Y with Aura Sphere. Maybe Thunder if you're planning to get rid of Groundon. Kyogre, Arceus and Xerneas look good enough. Although: Also I wouldn't run Focus Miss on Xerneas, I'm pretty sure there's a better move. Though I wouldn't run Focus Miss on anyone. She gets it. That's more of something personal, but i wouldn't use it on anything. As for Zekrom, i would never run both Fusion Bolt and Bolt Strike at the same time. I'd keep Fusion Bolt since the CB makes up for Base Power difference. And keep in mind what Murdoc said: I don't see what you can do to absorb status. I think you should work more on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Lemme go through this one poke at a time. This is another bro's team. without further ado... Kyogre @ Choice Scarf Trait: Drizzle EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Water Spout - Scald - Ice Beam - Thunder Special beast. Rainy Water Spout can do 60% or more even to water pokemons. scald for burn , thunder ofc in rain. ice beam for coverage. First issue is a minor one. 4 Def is inferior to 4 HP, especially since Kyogre is weak to primarily Special types. Second issue is the combination of Water Spout and Scald. Scald, for one, is plain stupid on a hyper-offensive team; you're trying to OHKO things, not burn them, so Surf/Hydro Pump is superior. Water Spout+Scald is also redundant coverage, especially on a Scarf set. Also, leading with a scarfed mon that isn't Volt Turning out is questionable at best. Xerneas @ Power Herb Trait: Fairy Aura EVs: 156 HP / 252 SAtk / 100 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Geomancy - Moonblast - Focus Blast - Thunderbolt good sp sweeper. power herb = geomancy in one turn so after geomancy xerneas sweeps almost everything. thunder maybe i should pick instead of tbolt. No real issue here, except that Focus Miss isn't really all that reliable, plus I don't know that you'll be able to OHKO the only Steel-type that will be coming in on you - Steel Arceus, unless Heatran, Scizor, or Genesect show up. Arceus @ Lum Berry Trait: Multitype EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Swords Dance - Extreme Speed - Shadow Claw - Earthquake Physical sweeper. basic standart set. No issue here, though Normal Arceus gets walled hard by Giratina despite Shadow Claw. Mewtwo X might give you some issues, too, though ExtremeSpeed will help with that. I would recommend 252 HP/ 4 Speed rather than the alternative, since Arceus has good bulk and you're abusing priority anyway. Mewtwo @ Mewtwonite Y Trait: Pressure EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Calm Mind - Psystrike - Flamethrower - Grass Knot boosing stats 1 time and mewtwo become OP unstoppable grass knot + flamethrower = coverage against common ubers Walled again by Giratina. Opposing Normal Arceus will destroy your Mewtwo, too, and Darkrai can likely outspeed and cripple you with sleep. CM Lugia will also laugh at this set, along with other Lugia variants to a lesser extent. Deoxys-D will also give you a hard time, though it is uncommon. Zekrom @ Choice Band Trait: Teravolt EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Dragon Claw - Bolt Strike - Crunch - Fusion Bolt banded zekrom can kill almost everything like 50-65 % damage in one turn.fusion bolt for additional electr move. No Speed on this Zekrom? The fuck? You're not Bisharp, and you have a bad defensive typing. As mentioned earlier, Fusion Bolt+Bolt Strike is bad. Groudon @ Leftovers Trait: Drought EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Stealth Rock - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Toxic Physical tank. stealth rock and toxic are for team support. Alright, I guess, though this set makes no sense for a hyper-offensive team. SO this is an ubers team now. Feel free and suggest changes if this team needs them. thanks ) Overall: A good wall will stop you dead, along with a number of status inducers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamina Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 '_' his moves are not the best i agree but could you please rephrase what you say sec i don't think it is nice to call people sets stupid or tell people their team is bad. As for kyoger it is good to have to water moves because water spouts damage weakens as kyoger gets weaker. i do not do much uber but maybe get rid of crunch and swap it with outrage and swap fusion bolt with sleep talk so you can deal with darkrai. ALso get rid of grass knot of mewtwo and give it shadow ball to deal with aegi. maybe dragon tail instead of toxic on groudon to make opponent receive more residual damage or to stop arcues normal from sweeping you with sd extreme speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camelot Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 well. i have added some changes according to this replies. thanks for help. But i have big problems with ditto. and stall teams. so would you suggest ways to counter ditto and stall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenshine Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Don't be afraid to have some non-Legendaries there, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJMistery Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 king murdoc, mega-mewtwo Y is immune to sleep... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevaleresse Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 king murdoc, mega-mewtwo Y is immune to sleep... I forget that they gave it Insommnia. Darkrai can still put a huge dent in it with Dark Pulse, though, especially since this Mewtwo has nothing to really hit it hard with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Hmm... Well, that Zekrom is sorta like what I used. I'd suggest swapping Dragon Claw for Outrage and Bolt Strike for a coverage move. You'll need to watch out for Earthquakes, and I'd even go so far as to suggest you having a Levitate/Flying Pokemon to switch in on those (I used my Yveltal a ton)Your MMY has really bad coverage. I like Psystrike/Aura Sphere myself, though that's not necessarily coverage. With Recover because healing (I have a tendency to get off more like three Calm Minds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJMistery Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 bad idea, fusion bolt is less powerfull, so it must be the one switched by a coverage move. And Outrage is the worst possible move to have in Ubers: guaranteing Xerneas a free turn to launch quiver dance, then another while you switch is a REALLY suicidal idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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