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@ Ethic: Possibly. Honestly, I'm making the circles one at a time, so if it's an historical/biblical character that has something to do with the circle's Sin, then it's probable you'll find them.

Also, I didn't get the truce thingy right as well... Am I correct to assume Ethic thinks Byron and Quincy are the same?

I'm not sure that assumption would be right either, because both Byron and Quincy are present while Rose was holding Scott captive for killing Ethic. Ethic comes back, and they're both still there.

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Why has Ethic said screw the truce exactly? I don't think I'm following well

Wait, what?

I think you guys are confused because you're thinking from too far back.

the truce I'm talking about is the one that Ethic and Quincy made when they encountered each other on the staircase to the top of the gardens:

"Oi, I said to stop calling me that! You should use the Proper name of your Hunter!!!!! It be Quincy and you best remember it." The Mad Rat yelled hearing Ethnic with his rather acute hearing. "Anyways no sense in fighting you guys right now, I may be bloodthirsty but not stupid. If I try to kill yous I am going to have to start all this shit over again, so how about we call a temporary truce?" He said as he blasted one of the Loving Dead with his version of the Preacher. A Red Mist coated his face, and splattered on his clothes, though he didn't seem to care.

"Anyways no sense in fighting you guys right now, I may be bloodthirsty but not stupid. If I try to kill yous I am going to have to start all this shit over again, so how about we call a temporary truce?"

Ethic looked up, surprised at the earlier remark... so apparently this thing's name was quincy...

the memory of what byron had said to them before they headed out a few hours ago popped into his mind, about how he'd take care of marcus but Ethic and Kenny would have to deal with a 'quincy' guy if they came across him.

Ethic pushed the thought away as he looked over his shoulders at the massive crowd below... and then back up to the stair case... there were a few loving dead even here.

He wighed his options easily...

He wasn't stupid either, fighting here and now would indeed be in poor favor of everyone involved.

"Alright," he said simply, speaking up for Kenny's behalf as well... he didn't need any protest right now and hoped his friend would keep quiet and follow his lead.

"Sounds like music to our ears. it's a truce then until the night is over." with that he walked up the stairs, whispering to kenny as he passed

"We don't have time to start any needless fighting right now... not with those hell-spawn all around."

with that he walked past the other young man and the Rat-man known as Quincy, Lucian following behind as Ethic increased his pace, making a break to try and reach the top, which was still pretty far away.

^That's the truce I'm talking about.

Quincy and Ethic agreed to hold off on fighting each other for the night, however, as Ethic's wraithfulness is closely tied in with how protective he is of his friends, he veiwed Quincy attacking Annie, Ellaria and Enya as a violation of the agreement, and as such isn't himself going to bother any more with restraining from allowing himself to delve into violence against Quincy

Ethic's memory on certain past events is rather spotty for now, and as such he doesn't remember how he saw Byron transforming into Quincy upon touching the lodestone in the first circle, ergo, he is not consciously aware that Byron and Quincy have the connection to each other as being two sides of the same coin. however, in the second circle, he had several encounters with Quincy, and as such remembered him because of that. however, he only had the one encounter with Byron, when he saw him transform, as I stated already. there were no other encounters between the two until the second circle.

so when Ethic saw Byron again, this time in the gardens, he did not recognize Byron and regarded him as a stranger, nor does he remember how Byron nearly killed Mr.Taylor by opening fire. he retains the memory of the name "Shotgun McGee" which he gave, however, the earliest memory of addressing someone as it, was when Quincy attacked everyone for the first time, ergo, he now associates the name only with Quincy, despite him having called Byron himself that originally following the attempted murder of Mr.Taylor near the beginning of the first chapter of this story.

I honestly don't know why you all were confused. there was only one truce Ethic ever made with anyone he had open hostilities with so far, and it was with Quincy. The reason I said it didn't last long is because I'm thinking in story time, not Real Time. and let's be realistic for a second; between the storming of the stairs, and everyone swinging across and entering the Green house, it honestly makes no sense for those events to have taken more two hours at the very most.

Have I clarified enough? because if not, I really have no issue going back into the Chapter one thread and digging up all the old conversations/ posts that are relevant to what I have said above this sentence.

{PS. Ethic knows Byron has lightning powers because he saw him use them earlier on, however, right now he believes this to be more of a coincidence that Byron and Quincy have the same abilities, instead of it being due to them being two halves of a whole. He assumed that Quincy }

EDIt: ... Oh, wait... Damnit, I screwed up and technically metagamed... Ethic has no way of knowing for sure that Quincy has electrical manipulation, I simply had him assume as much because he would've entered the clearing to see Annie receiving treatment for burns...but I failed to acknowledge the fact that burns resulting from high doses of electricity are pretty much indiscernible from burns resulting from a fire or exposure to high amounts of heat...Ergo, that mental comment on having the same abilities is not logically possible...

so Ethic's entire reaction may have to be scraped right now inorder to substitute it with him assuming Quincy has some type of Pyrokinesis and subsequently becoming unnerved because of this belief...

actually, I'll leave this up to Notus: Do you want me to edit the post to make it more appropriate or are you fine with it staying like it is?

anyways:

Damnit...Really sorry bout that screw up folks.

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Ok, I think I understand a little more Strat. It's this line from Ethic's latest saga that threw me off.

>>he and Byron had had a pact made on the stair case, a truce for the night. but you know >>what? to hell with the truce, as far as Ethic was concerned, attacking his friends counted as >>the same thing as an attack on himself, and therefore, the pror agreement between them >>was technically broken now...

It kinda made me think that Ethic had made a pact with Byron and... Well anyway, I get it know, thanks for the clarification.

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Ooh, ok, I had forgotten that dialogue. No need for editing your post, at the most I can have Ellaria say that Annie was hit by lightining or something.

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Oh, OK then

and @ Rose, No need to appologize...

it was actually really my own fualt since I kinda got the names mixed up in that dialogue and put down "Byron" when I should've put "Quincy" I'll fix that

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for now, I think I'll just have Ethic sit and wait until Quincy revives

He'll probably won't be able to get involved in the Lilith Boss battle, but he'll be doing a service to the group by attempting to eliminate such a chronic threat as the Rat Man has posed so far...

By the way, Notus, just outta curiosity, would the whole "Hacking to pieces" theory work for negating the Resurrection effect? or does it keep going no matter what shape the body is in upon death?

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Kkkk I'll be sure to include that pun XD .

And yeah, hacking the foe into pieces don't work. In the Hill there are only a few ways to keep the dead... well, dead, and most of them are only available to some of the bosses. Like the wolf Deceit did with Nolan on chapter one.

Oh, I probably should warn you Lilith and the sucubbus have one of those. ^_^

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yes, that's right, Quincy...

Look at the flowers, you filthy antagonistic rodent... Can't get rid of you, but that's all right... we'll figure that out eventually, and then we'll realize we just have to keep killing you whenever our paths cross, then maybe you'll get the damn message...

but for right now, it's time for Ethic to make Rat Sushi...

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I think it's a nice idea, and if anyone doesn't like the song it's just a matter of not playing it anyway. What do you guys think?

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I wouldn't mind. Like you said, you don't have to play it if you don't want to.

On a different note, will Phantom make it before the battle ends? I've been waiting for Supernovae, but should I just continue down the steps and assume he'll follow?

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