Sutoratosu Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) ^ http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/fear.htm a site explaining how fear works in the human body and what not to help with research if you want. --------------------------------------------- well... might as well share some thought's on Anver's ability... I've figured that the main way I'm going to have him work his ability is that he manipulates the Thermal energy of the air around him or his intended targets, though also have it so that he can manipulate the thermal energy of most liquids with as much ease as he can gases. I've split his ability up into two categories: Convective heat transfer, which is for the most part, indirect on his part and serves as a ranged option in combat for him, and what he uses for Liquids and Gases: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convective_heat_transfer and Thermal conduction, which is direct on his part and serves as a close ranged option in combat, what he uses to directly transfer heat he generates onto solid, physical objects without having to use liquids or the air as a medium for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conduction_(heat) Now... theoretically I suppose it would be possible for him to use CHT to heat the liquids in a person's circulatory system, or even to super heat the gases in their lungs and cause death that way... though, for the former I've decided to have it so that something about the chemistry of human blood prevents him from being able to heat it efficiently, taking that option away for the most part... and for the Latter I plan to have him mostly refrain from that due to his personality and basic empathy keeping him from considering exercising such an awful method of death as causing a person to feel as though they burning from the inside out in their chest... so that really won't be deployed unless he is left with no choice but to do it. that leaves tossing blast of superheated/ superfrigid air at targets as his main combat option (how he does it is he heats up a pocket of the air then uses the whole "Warm air Rises" principle to move it towards his target, with the air mass bouncing back and forth as it rises above the colder air and then is sent back down again by anver heating the air directly above it to a higher temperature, and so on and so forth until it hits, which results in the air mass having a somewhat zigzagging path before as it closes in on it's mark. which is why it would take more concentration to send a blast of thermally manipulated air over longer distances, because it is a somewhat complicated process.) I think it reasonable that he can raise things to their Flash points (the temperature at which they catch fire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_point) with either method fairly easily, though he tries not to do so due to the fact that in most situations, a fire would be far more trouble than help. as for the non-combat active related aspects of his ability, I figured it would be reasonable for him to be unaffected by fire, as he can control the temperature of the air and weaken the heat, but to still be susceptible to Smoke inhalation if he doesn't act to stop the fire quick enough (EX. he wakes up one day and his sleeping place is engulfed in an inferno and has been for several minutes before he awoke). the immunity to hot and cold is pretty self explanatory. as for the limits as to how far he can go: for heating things, his bodily limit is the same temperature at which the element of Tungsten begins to melt: 3410 degrees Celsius, or 6170 degrees Fahrenheit. as for cooling things, his limit is approximately -265 degrees Celsius, or -445 degrees Fahrenheit, which places it at a few degrees above absoulte zero, which is -273.15 C or -459.67 F. Edited July 5, 2014 by Stratos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Oh I think I am evolving Viktor towards the path of just going insane, that is what I am saying, I will have that planned out by the time he meets her probably. Right now, he hates himself, so it would work pretty easily, but I think hanging around Hades is going to change him for the worse. (Probably even small bursts of contact.). Totally get what you are saying though. Basically it all hinges on whether or not Viktor becomes he who hunts monsters, or if he stays the way he is now. Now he is highly vulnerable, but could probably fight it. Especially if he knows Cass is the source of it, since I think she has to concentrate, and the sudden pain of a blood clot probably wouldn't be good for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Ah, okay XD And yeah, he could fight it, suddenness is good, though IDK if something simply painful would work, it would likely depend on how much. I can see her keeping on after getting stabbed or shot, but not after having an open flame on her arm. Basically: It's more the anount than the intensity. Though, he could cause a sort of headrush, right? That would probs wreck her ... And sorry if I came off rudely BTW, I may have been a bit miffed at implications of OPness (despite them probs being my fault for not explaining well) Thinking out and balancing innovating abilities is one of my fortes, and I may have taken it a bit personally. I was going to mention the pro:con ratio for Cassidy here, but I can't recall the exact number, somewhere between 2:5 and 2:8, the time required being the main outright negative, though the emotion thing is far more hindering overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Oh it is fine lol, I tned to air on the side of everything being OP until I am proven otherwise. You can probably tell by the way I approach people's characters as well when I Sue check or think something in their backstory etc...is off or weird. I typicially air against, unless they convince me otherwise. As someone who enjoys teaching I do this to make sure people are questioning themselves and their own designs. I have a thing for prodding at things to see what others are thinking as well. (not to name names, but I actually did do it to someone here before, where I questioned something in a character just to see the thought process going into it. I can't help myself sometimes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 as for cooling things, his limit is approximately -265 degrees Celsius, or -445 degrees Fahrenheit, which places it at a few degrees above absoulte zero, which is -273.15 C or -459.67 F. Well. That gives the bartender one advantage over Anver... As for Cassidy... directly affecting hormones does not seem like a good route to go with her ability to me... I would keep it strictly mental. Yes, giving them some sort of fear will cause hormones to happen, but I did not read her ability as the scientific way you described, where she can basically just tell their hormones to go crazy and kill them. Anyway, you seem to have this issue resolved for the most part. I haven't seen anything overpowered in the ability yet; it actually seems very well balanced considering that those with enough willpower can resist it (if I read that correctly). And Zweiss certainly has plenty of willpower... For now, we shall continue, and see just where their conversation will lead them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 ...Well, I kinda share that, Hakuna. If someone provides even a hint of Suism in a character, I have a tendency to drill into it unless they can provide significant evidence otherwise (I've struggled with making Sues myself, so I really bug at it with others) ... And I kinda agree Flux, and I had laid grounds for the supernatural before. Just figured I'd provide the option. ^^ I actually went through this myself not long after I made Cassidy ... Also, since it came up, I think extended use would cause Cassidy's own fears to manifest in her nightmare world. She's good at holding them back, but in the end, her ability is going to slowly eat away at her psyche. Haven't decided if she'll accept her fears (immunity), overpower them (no real change from now, and she'll likely have to face the same predicament over again), or just die. It shall be interesting to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yea, that last part is totally up to you, though I would find it interesting if they did plague her mind, would always be like a ticking time bomb. It also creates some suspense, and I can never get enough suspense. It really drives situations, and added that extra element would make the encounters even more frantic, since she herself has something to fear. (just spitballing here, so feel free to ignore me lol.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) That's pretty much what I was thinking. Once it took root, could start having random attacks. It would mean that at nearly any point she could suddenly lose it. And she'd have the added fear of her own ability piled on her current fears. It would do so much for her character. I just need to flesh out the mechanic, debating an embodiment in her dreams with blackouts as she gets taken there, or a slower buildup where she starts experiencing the systems one by one. At first glance the latter choice seems obvious, but I do enjoy having my characters struggle with themselves (though the last character I did this variation of it with, kinda ended up broken >_>) It also opens up possibilities for her to lose control of her power or body outwardly, have random ticks and her power going off at people beyond her control. Which does present some problems, as part of what limits it so much is Cassidy herself... I'm leaning towards the slow approach, but I'm not fully decided yet (I expect most would advocate the slow one simply for the dangers of having her ability without her person to limit it?) The one thing that needs remembered though, is that she is just a girl. She may try to act beyond her age, but at heart she's still twelve. And she ran away from her family and depressing lack of friends. And thus her greatest fear, which I don't mind mentioning since I think it would be transparent, is realized: Loneliness. And if you think about it, it's kind of ironic. She wants everyone to disappear, but she's afraid of being alone EDIT: Oh, and spitballing is the best. As long as you don't get upset when someone rejects your concept (which kinda defeats the purpose of calling it spitballing, but I've had people do it) But it's quite fun tossing out ideas and seeing what you can mash together with them. I have a character or two sitting around (in dead RPs >_>) who were the constructed of randomly thrown together personality quirks Edited July 6, 2014 by MasterWeavile898 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Spitballing is fun when you can do it. VIktor is actually a pretty spit balled character since I felt like playing a somewhat darker version of the family man, who for whatever reason, just can't be near his family. Spitballing, and for lack of a better word, bullshitting are kinda my most powerful tools. I can pull stuff from left field and usually make it work or at least be convincing. Like 3 characters from Graterras were made right on the spot (Jupiter, Bjorn, and Chuaff.), and people seem to be loving them. Pretty sure people are just really fond of Bjorn and Chuaff because they are a pretty classic comedy duo, where as Chuaff is the straight man to Bjorn's wise guy. Bjorn is the Happy go lucky dude, where as Chuaff is the ,as he calls it, realist. The dynamic that makes it intersting is the 'how the hell are these 2 friends?" thing. Just so you know, Making stuff up on the Fly is pretty dangerous, and even though I do it way more than I should I don't recommend it to anybody else. While I can pull it off it has always been a part of my style, by no means should any of you guys really replicate it XD. Trust me on this one, it is a dangerous and slippery slope. This is just a warning for anybody who thinks that can be as haphazard as me. That is not one thing to look up to that I do, other than the fact that I can magically pull it off. But don't strive for that, strive to better your skills as a writer. (Sorry, just getting concerned lol, I feel that since I am mod now I need to clearly state my methods rarely work for most people.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 "cough" That's totally not what I do... "cough" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhi Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 *Cough, Cough* -Spit- *Cough*eh? Just my nonexistent cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I generally spitball plots and abilities (it's more fun to balance something you kinda randomly shoved together out of nowhere) My characters, as I mentioned at some point previously, are generally from my dreams or based of an aspect or two of myself and developed from there I've made some really fun plots just from me and Doctor tossing random ideas back and forth [insert obligatory Doctor/Master joke here] (and then don't tell her, I said I'd stop making those owo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I don't even know what you are talking about. And you 2, brush up you writing skills, don't be 100% like Hukuna Sensai!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Doctor is an RP friend of mine from elsewhere. And it's a doctor Who joke I tried to post, I did. But the keyboard on this is horrid and I kept accidentally ending up outside the textbox whilst pressing backspace. And no Lazurus on this PC to bring it back. So, Ima post some other time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 It's cool, just post whenever you can lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernovae Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm really glad you got everything worked out with Cassidy, Weavile. I'm looking forward to her and Jude's future love/hate relationship ((though right now it seems like it'll mostly be hate.)) Also, I wasn't trying to insinuate that Cassidy was OP or sueish in any way. So I'm sorry if you took it that way. Also, yeah I spitball quite often. Really it's pretty impossible not too early on in an RP. You're still getting to know the character yourself, along with the world the host is building and sometimes, well it's just tough to keep the way you though of the character before the RP to exist in the world the host is making. When I post I just try my best to think of how the character would react to the current situations. Sometimes it may be a little inconsistent, but then again so are people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I've got a thing I do where I take on the character's personality and then just react. But it only works after I've finished fully shaping them... Cassidy is reach that point, it shall certainly be interesting to be her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindrop Valkyrie Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yea, the point where a character is thought out well enough to take them on is ususally the point where they start to be very interesting. And yea Super, even people aren't 100% consistent. It highly depends on the situation and just what is going on with them currently. SO keep the in mind when RPing. There isn't really a wrong choice unless it is like totally out of left field. Basically, so long as a character we have come to know as a good natured person, doesn't suddenly 180 it is usually fine. (it goes for the other way around as well.), you can build them up to a change of heart, but you can't just do it out of the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm excited to experience how Cassidy thinks. She may share some of my thought processes, but she's still quite different. In a way, she's as far from me as possibubble, going full-circle around to make apparent similarities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snap Crackle Pop Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Hmm, I suppose I should have Alice wake up then? Not sure who's post it is at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 I've been waiting for Weavile to post, actually. I realize they ran into some problems last time they tried to post, so perhaps I'll move Hukuna and Ark on alone for now. I was planning to have everyone move to the next day at the same time (besides Stratos, who's on his own in a way.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snap Crackle Pop Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Okay~! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhi Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Her last post was two days ago, and she said it took half an hour to type even a small segment. Considering the site has been reloaded, I'd guess her internet isn't at its forte. And in my position, I can't do much. Poseidon's my guiding factor until R&D. That or I walk myself, which will bump the topic back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 At most, I could walk you and Viktor to your places, unless we continue to the next day without her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamitako Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 ...Yeah, sorry for holding things up. My DS seems to be loading the site again without error, so I'll attempt to post today or tomorrow (depending on how long my PSS post takes this evening) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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