Veterans Azeria Posted June 24, 2014 Veterans Share Posted June 24, 2014 Honest question: Do people really think that Heather's an E4 member, or even a trainer for that matter? I mean, we've never seen her battle before, we've just seen her use her Salamence to get around; and having command of a Salamence at her age is definitely something strange, but are we really that sure that she's even a trainer? One of the theories I read here is that the Salamence belonged to her mother, and the only reason the Salamence follows her orders is out of respect for the mother's memory. Until we actually see her do something other than command Salamence to fly somewhere, I'm keeping my reservations. We know Laura's an E4 member (Charlotte said so), and we can figure that El is an E4 member as well because Cain mentioned him being 'one of the elite' in Radomus' gym after the battle with him. Blake being an E4 member too would make sense due to Cal's anger at him "always being better", and Cal was the previous Fire type gym leader before stepping down and Charlotte taking over. At one point I wanted to say that Saphira was an E4 member too, I figured that she was the strongest member of the family due to her being the oldest (showing much more badassery than Laura did played a key part in this line of thinking too; seriously, her Liligant didn't do shit to keep her from getting kidnapped), but then she mentioned that her gym was in Calcenon/ Labradora, and unless E4 members get gyms too, I don't think that's the case. Maybe She Was an Elite 4 Member But Stepped down in order to take care of her family Look At Lorelei and Agatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I honestly thought it would be cool if Ame herself was the Champion. Like how you battle Professor Sycamore in X&Y the person who gave you your starter, and cares so deeply for the region and pokemon turns out to be a strong trainer. Like that deleted battle from the original Red and Green beta where you battle Professor Oak after becoming champion. Although Ame already stated that she wouldn't make herself be the champion (And i always forget where that quote is), i'd like to see an aftergame battle with Ame. That'd be kewl. Honest question: Do people really think that Heather's an E4 member, or even a trainer for that matter? I mean, we've never seen her battle before, we've just seen her use her Salamence to get around; and having command of a Salamence at her age is definitely something strange, but are we really that sure that she's even a trainer? One of the theories I read here is that the Salamence belonged to her mother, and the only reason the Salamence follows her orders is out of respect for the mother's memory. Until we actually see her do something other than command Salamence to fly somewhere, I'm keeping my reservations. I don't know if you remember, but didn't she battle Corey while you battle against ZEL and Taka in Beryl? Although, if the Salamence really belonged to her mother, then the Salamence recognized that the Meteor member was Corey. Then, the Salamence didn't use it's "full force" against Corey, cuz reasons. But i don't believe she is part of the E4. Unless Blake turned her into a bad ass battler. We know Laura's an E4 member (Charlotte said so), and we can figure that El is an E4 member as well because Cain mentioned him being 'one of the elite' in Radomus' gym after the battle with him. Blake being an E4 member too would make sense due to Cal's anger at him "always being better", and Cal was the previous Fire type gym leader before stepping down and Charlotte taking over. At one point I wanted to say that Saphira was an E4 member too, I figured that she was the strongest member of the family due to her being the oldest (showing much more badassery than Laura did played a key part in this line of thinking too; seriously, her Liligant didn't do shit to keep her from getting kidnapped), but then she mentioned that her gym was in Calcenon/ Labradora, and unless E4 members get gyms too, I don't think that's the case. Remember that character that we don't know who it is in the start screen? Cuz it's only a silhouette? What about that character? Someone that we don't know and it only reveals itself near the end of the game? I don't know. I still want a rematch against Mr.Bigglesworth in the aftergame though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted June 24, 2014 Author Support Squad Share Posted June 24, 2014 So Elias is indeed reffered as one of the Elite, but that still begs the question: Why would Ame allow El into the league? He certainlyis not quite about his liasons and connections with meteor, even Corey tried some form of subtlety to try and prevent his identity from being uncovered, whereas El does not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterans Azeria Posted June 24, 2014 Veterans Share Posted June 24, 2014 So Elias is indeed reffered as one of the Elite, but that still begs the question: Why would Ame allow El into the league? He certainlyis not quite about his liasons and connections with meteor, even Corey tried some form of subtlety to try and prevent his identity from being uncovered, whereas El does not Maybe Because Ame Has no Legal Proof without that she cant sue or kick him out That and He has Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted June 24, 2014 Author Support Squad Share Posted June 24, 2014 How is Ditto even remotely significant to why he is E4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etesian Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 So Elias is indeed reffered as one of the Elite, but that still begs the question: Why would Ame allow El into the league? He certainlyis not quite about his liasons and connections with meteor, even Corey tried some form of subtlety to try and prevent his identity from being uncovered, whereas El does not He certainly wasn't mentioning Team Meteor when he recruited Bennett, he's not that open about it. The reason he's not hiding anything from the MC is because they know about most of everything, the keys, their objective (the meteor) and all that. And him being refered to as an "Elite" may not mean that he's an Elite 4 member. Considering he's at the top of a religious cult, "Elite" may refer to a member of High Society. In that case, the conections he claims to have could be through Team Meteor's influence. Corey may not have been the only one in a tricky situation. For all we know, some gym leader could be part of El's cult. Though I haven't played through that bit in a while, so take this with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashonem Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Although Ame already stated that she wouldn't make herself be the champion (And i always forget where that quote is), i'd like to see an aftergame battle with Ame. That'd be kewl. I don't know if you remember, but didn't she battle Corey while you battle against ZEL and Taka in Beryl? Although, if the Salamence really belonged to her mother, then the Salamence recognized that the Meteor member was Corey. Then, the Salamence didn't use it's "full force" against Corey, cuz reasons. But i don't believe she is part of the E4. Unless Blake turned her into a bad ass battler. My memory of the Rhodochrine Jungle is pretty foggy (I try to forget battles against that Chatot), but you're right, Corey battled her with his Crobat. He also quit the battle after you beat Taka and ZEL (similar to what happens when you beat Solaris' Garchomp) Remember that character that we don't know who it is in the start screen? Cuz it's only a silhouette? What about that character? Someone that we don't know and it only reveals itself near the end of the game? I don't know. That person/thing must be pretty important; I think it's the only character that we know literally nothing about at the moment. I mean we don't know much about Blake, and we didn't know much about the Agate trio before now, but we at least knew of those people (whether from Reborn League or in-game conversations); AFAIK, we're completely blind about that silhouette. I still want a rematch against Mr.Bigglesworth in the aftergame though. I still think we're gonna get hit with post game back story for Bigglesworth. It's pretty much spelled out that a PULSE Garbodor is the reason Byxbysion is a wasteland (I think a lot of people speculated that already though), maybe we get more insight on it postgame; kind of like a loose end being tied up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted June 24, 2014 Author Support Squad Share Posted June 24, 2014 Oh wow, i attributed Mr B as a whimsical add in, but a backstory like that is just... wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashonem Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Oh wow, i attributed Mr B as a whimsical add in, but a backstory like that is just... wow I'm pretty sure he was, but the potential for backstory is there. There's even a PULSE machine in his cave on the wall opposite of him that forces more speculation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Squad Felicity Posted June 24, 2014 Author Support Squad Share Posted June 24, 2014 What if the Tourmaline desert was a pulse hippowdon? the drawn map of reborn shows what looks like ruins in the desert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlytosion Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Could be a Celebi event that sends the player back in time to stop Team Meteor. That would be pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Seeing as how we've already battled Bennett with a full squad, I just have my doubts about him. Amaria is a gym leader in the game I don't see why she'd be a E4. I am however thinking that the E4 will be (In no order) Poison Fire Water Grass As for El, I also have my doubts that we will face him in the E4, and I highly doubt he's the Champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Seeing as how we've already battled Bennett with a full squad, I just have my doubts about him. Amaria is a gym leader in the game I don't see why she'd be a E4. I am however thinking that the E4 will be (In no order) Poison Fire Water Grass As for El, I also have my doubts that we will face him in the E4, and I highly doubt he's the Champion. I'm assuming you got the types through matching the colors of the gemstones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebornRanger Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Seeing as how we've already battled Bennett with a full squad, I just have my doubts about him. Amaria is a gym leader in the game I don't see why she'd be a E4. I am however thinking that the E4 will be (In no order) Poison Fire Water Grass As for El, I also have my doubts that we will face him in the E4, and I highly doubt he's the Champion. nope cal said that blake uses ice types. that gives us grass and ice for sure and im guessing el( if hes even in the elite 4) is normal bc he uses ditto/arceus and a snorlax near serras gym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 nope cal said that blake uses ice types. that gives us grass and ice for sure and im guessing el( if hes even in the elite 4) is normal bc he uses ditto/arceus and a snorlax near serras gym What makes you so sure Blake is going to be in the E4? No one truly knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosesong Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 We aren't sure about Blake though. And we can't forget Bennett... What if El abdicated his position on the E4 awhile back? He would still be considered "one of the elite" as Cain referred to him (because you don't lose your skill just because you retire to... pursue other interests), and he would have the connections to get Bennett on the E4, no questions asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Don't trust a word that comes out of a preachers mouth. Also, doesn't seem like Bennett and El are a thing anymore to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosesong Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Don't count em out Jericho. Remember, when we faced Bennett last he was going off to make El keep his promise and become so powerful that the player would regret keeping Luna from him (pretty sure that's how that went down) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazmat Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The last time we thought Bennet he didnt evolve his Larvesta so its pretty much a given he fight us one last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Amethyst Posted June 25, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 25, 2014 It wouldn't surprise me if we battle Anna one day and she doesn't even have that Gothitelle anymore. Highly likely. I chose that kind of arbitrarily until I knew what would be in its place. She won't use Jirachi, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacos Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Highly likely. I chose that kind of arbitrarily until I knew what would be in its place. She won't use Jirachi, sadly. QQ. Was really looking forward to a jirachi battle ;-;. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Hm, does this mean Anna is confirmed E4/Champion? Or will we battle her just cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Or will we battle her just cause. Probably that. Or maybe the Doctor is going to do something to Anna and then she battles you. I'll still stand to the point that Lin is the "champion". "champion". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Well, there's no doubt in my mind that we'll fight Lin at somepoint, but the question is when. I just feel like Evil boss is champion has been done before (Black and White) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosesong Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Or tough gym leader in RBY. I still think Lin has enough power, and won't be champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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